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£10 DYM SNG Bubble play - would you call here, was I too aggressive??

simonnatursimonnatur Member Posts: 330
edited December 2011 in The Poker Clinic

situation  4 handed and all roughly equal in chips, I figured I had huge fold equity.

Not sure what I would have done with AKs here - I like to think with so much fold equity there will be many opportunities to pick up chips with less risk of getting unlucky.

Anyone agree or think AKs is a snap call.

Appreciate your views.



Hand History #447958193 (11:40 10/12/2011)PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancestilhenrikSmall blind 150.00150.003515.00GPaddon1Big blind 300.00450.002645.00 Your hole cards5J   simonnaturAll-in 2830.003280.000.00MADDOG79Fold    stilhenrikAll-in 3515.006795.000.00GPaddon1Fold    stilhenrikUnmatched bet 835.005960.00835.00stilhenrikShowAK   simonnaturShow5J   Flop  610A   Turn  7   River  2   stilhenrikWinPair of Aces5960.00 6795.00
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited December 2011
    Very easy snap fold preflop.
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: £10 DYM SNG Bubble play - would you call here, was I too aggressive??:
    Very easy snap fold preflop.
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    why?
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited December 2011
    He has almost 10bbs at 150/300 in a game where coming 3rd wins the moniez and shove will only get him 450 more which won't make a massive difference to chance of wiining and only called by better.
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: £10 DYM SNG Bubble play - would you call here, was I too aggressive??:
    He has almost 10bbs at 150/300 in a game where coming 3rd wins the moniez and shove will only get him 450 more which won't make a massive difference to chance of wiining and only called by better.
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    just playing devils advocate. Lets assume its 3 competent villains, all around 10BB

    whats our gameplan?
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited December 2011
    Still survival, he has no chance of being blinded out when blinds next pass even at 200/400 so just sit tight and wait for others to make mistake.
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: £10 DYM SNG Bubble play - would you call here, was I too aggressive??:
    Still survival, he has no chance of being blinded out when blinds next pass even at 200/400 so just sit tight and wait for others to make mistake.
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    I understand we are trying to survive but going thru blinds takes 15% of our stack and they come around every 4 hands

    Whats our shoving/call a shove range? Assume villians are playing tight and waiting for others to make mistakes
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited December 2011
    Probably depends on who you're playing but if I'm very short it's ATC can be shove, but to call a shove when I'm safe i.e. currently 2nd/3rd I'd want QQ+ maybe JJ.
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  • Poker_FailPoker_Fail Member Posts: 1,755
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: £10 DYM SNG Bubble play - would you call here, was I too aggressive??:
    In Response to Re: £10 DYM SNG Bubble play - would you call here, was I too aggressive?? : I understand we are trying to survive but going thru blinds takes 15% of our stack and they come around every 4 hands Whats our shoving/call a shove range? Assume villians are playing tight and waiting for others to make mistakes
    Posted by grantorino
    If you have to, it's much better to shove into the BB from the SB, here he has shoved light from UTG which is pretty suicidey
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited December 2011
    guys I know its prob a fold.

    Just think the ultratight strategy that seems to be in vogue here mightnt necessarily be best at a table of good players, esp one who wont call off light
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  • MISTER_BMISTER_B Member Posts: 59
    edited December 2011
    4 handed I would never shove with that hand, having that reletive stack.

    Difficult to answer without an idea of the villians style, but 4 handed I might fold ak in that position too, (don't shoot me down), I would expect to be up against a high pair, but again depends on the specifics, how tight etc
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  • JohnConnorJohnConnor Member Posts: 1,160
    edited December 2011
    The shove is far too wide for me and I would probably fold the AK as well, but expecting other players to do that is not happening, sorry. To make that shove I probably need (if I'm playing my best/most disciplined) JJ+, AK. To make the call, probably, QQ+
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  • 12671267 Member Posts: 936
    edited December 2011

    u wer 2nd in chips ryt , absolutely no need to shove here in my opinion.  Also not sure why the guy shoved all in, he should have just flatted, and hoped the guy behind also called.

    Personally im nearly always calling the ak here, altho i dont love it.  Defo proffitable Long-term.

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