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DYM - QQ in SB 1st level, 3bet or shove?

Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
edited December 2011 in The Poker Clinic
Obvz I'm reraising but just wondered what peoples thoughts are on just shipping as it looks super weak to your average joe and likely to get fairly loose calls whereas if I just make standard 3bet and A/K hits it often ends up in me losing the pot ?

Also no notes.

Dudeskin8Small blind 10.0010.001970.00
jack334Big blind 20.0030.001900.00
 Your hole cards
  • Q
  • Q
   
wayne1958Raise 40.0070.001910.00
ReefaFold    
NOMOKFold    
bigshowb10Call 40.00110.002130.00
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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited December 2011
    Playing alot of DYMs then dudeskin :P

    I think you lose to much value in longterm by shoving.  How many people are putting there Tlife on line in first level?

    Just make a standard 3bet
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  • waynecwaynec Member Posts: 1,023
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM - QQ in SB 1st level, 3bet or shove?:
    Playing alot of DYMs then dudeskin :P I think you lose to much value in longterm by shoving.  How many people are putting there Tlife on line in first level? Just make a standard 3bet
    Posted by AMYBR
    100% agree plus 1
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  • JohnConnorJohnConnor Member Posts: 1,160
    edited December 2011
    In Response to DYM - QQ in SB 1st level, 3bet or shove?:
    Obvz I'm reraising but just wondered what peoples thoughts are on just shipping as it looks super weak to your average joe and likely to get fairly loose calls whereas if I just make standard 3bet and A/K hits it often ends up in me losing the pot ? Also no notes. Dudeskin8 Small blind   10.00 10.00 1970.00 jack334 Big blind   20.00 30.00 1900.00   Your hole cards Q Q       wayne1958 Raise   40.00 70.00 1910.00 Reefa Fold         NOMOK Fold         bigshowb10 Call   40.00 110.00 2130.00 Dudeskin8
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    I make a standard 3-bet here. Of course your arguments for just shoving are very valid and if I genuinely thought I was at a table where I would get it in often vs under pairs then I would go for it. If you are up against AK here it's very much in your favour to be seeing the flop. You can't go flipping at this stage as you know and as you also know, few lower stakes players would fold AK even to an all-in even at the beginning of a DYM.
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  • wayne1958wayne1958 Member Posts: 263
    edited December 2011
    It was a bit of a shock 1st hand picking up aces, and more of a shock your all in, like thay say you risk everthing , and even with aces in the hole i would not go all in 1st hand , if your hands good play it, anyway prob see u soon enough on dym lol.
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited December 2011
    3 bet big and call shove
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  • psyconaugtpsyconaugt Member Posts: 13
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM - QQ in SB 1st level, 3bet or shove?:
    3 bet big and call shove
    Posted by rancid

    this

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