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DYM early - call or fold turn

rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
edited December 2011 in The Poker Clinic
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
rancid Small blind   10.00 10.00 1890.00
ethelred Big blind   20.00 30.00 2085.00
  Your hole cards
  • 3
  • 3
     
oliverco11 Call   20.00 50.00 1880.00
nocash Fold        
jobdone Call   20.00 70.00 2085.00
scouse101 Call   20.00 90.00 1970.00
rancid Call   10.00 100.00 1880.00
ethelred Check        
Flop
   
  • 7
  • 4
  • 3
     
rancid Bet   75.00 175.00 1805.00
ethelred Fold        
oliverco11 Call   75.00 250.00 1805.00
jobdone Raise   150.00 400.00 1935.00
scouse101 Call   150.00 550.00 1820.00
rancid Call   75.00 625.00 1730.00
oliverco11 Call   75.00 700.00 1730.00
Turn
   
  • 5
     
rancid Check        
oliverco11 Check        
jobdone Bet   525.00 1225.00 1410.00
scouse101 Call   525.00 1750.00 1295.00
rancid  
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited December 2011
    Shove on flop when it gets back to you ftw, can't fathom why you'd call.

    Turn worse card you could see and good punishment for murdering flop.
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited December 2011
    looks like a fold now on the turn m8. sik

    u defo need to look to get it in on the flop tho
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM early - call or fold turn:
    Shove on flop when it gets back to you ftw, can't fathom why you'd call. Turn worse card you could see and good punishment for murdering flop.
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    Limped pot - multi way - lots of action on a wet flop -

    was not sure where I was and I thought I might not be such a big favourite, hence flat

    I think I might have the odds for the call on turn if my house is live, wondered what people thought on the turn

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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited December 2011
    Still shove when it gets back to you imo, you hit a set so gotta get max value when you're most likely ahead which is on flop, only losing to 56 which you have outs against and only dead vs 77/44 but set v set is rare.
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM early - call or fold turn:
    Still shove when it gets back to you imo, you hit a set so gotta get max value when you're most likely ahead which is on flop, only losing to 56 which you have outs against and only dead vs 77/44 but set v set is rare.
    Posted by Dudeskin8

    Yeah but I was mainly thinking they could have FD & SD between em so looking at a blank turn

    I think you may be right but I just can't be asked to stove it right now

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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited December 2011
    Wouldn't it be better to charge them for draws ?
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM early - call or fold turn:
    Wouldn't it be better to charge them for draws ?
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    Like I said you may be right, but I am playing v a range here not just draws

    shoving flop or calling so....



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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM early - call or fold turn:
    In Response to Re: DYM early - call or fold turn : Like I said you may be right, but I am playing v a range here not just draws shoving flop or calling so....
    Posted by rancid
    I love this sort of rubbish lol, just shove flop !
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited December 2011
    Why are you shoving flop? massive overbet your not really getting alot of value.

    I wouldnt call either re-raise to 650 and hopes someone shoves on the flop

    As played snap fold
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  • gracie24gracie24 Member Posts: 227
    edited December 2011
    It is a DYM and one of these may have a set or a flush or a str8 which is beating you. In any event one of these is likely to go out and leave you neare the money. Be patient in DYM's and fold all but nuts on early rounds.
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM early - call or fold turn:
    In Response to Re: DYM early - call or fold turn : I love this sort of rubbish lol, just shove flop !
    Posted by Dudeskin8

    Lol – I guess over cautious (DYM) but anyway – should of banged it in while favourite - think DYM are messing with my normal lines

    I did try and stove it last night, not sure if I done it right, said I was a big fav…

     Anyhow, I am sure I can call turn given that I stack at least one oppo. I have 20% here.

     

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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM early - call or fold turn:
    Why are you shoving flop? massive overbet your not really getting alot of value. I wouldnt call either re-raise to 650 and hopes someone shoves on the flop As played snap fold
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    +1

    dislike a shove. h8 a flat even more.

    mayb bit bigger than 650 tho, esp @ lower level.


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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM early - call or fold turn:
    In Response to Re: DYM early - call or fold turn : +1 dislike a shove. h8 a flat even more. mayb bit bigger than 650 tho, esp @ lower level.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH

    By raising to 650ish are we folding a bad turn card :S

    Don’t think both oppo go away with that raise

    Can we put nearly half our stack in and fold turn ?

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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited December 2011
    no make a pot committing flop raise then shove 100% of turns.

    edit - i didn't pay enough attention to the flop action the 1st time round, you led and they clicked it back, so shoving isn't as bad as i first thought. still like 2 raise again tho. 
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited December 2011
    If this is £3.30 and below they are NEVER folding once they click it back. 
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM early - call or fold turn:
    no make a pot committing flop raise then shove 100% of turns. edit - i didn't pay enough attention to the flop action the 1st time round, you led and they clicked it back, so shoving isn't as bad as i first thought. still like 2 raise again tho. 
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Yeah I hear ya, good players will know they have to shove over a raise on flop - bad players will call though leading to horrible turns that we are shoving as very possible bluffs ! or just folding !

    Maybe should of stated the level of DYM :S


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