potatoo: you could 4bet slightly bigge pre, but its by no means terrible! ppl are def nitpickin & some aint makin any sense at all imo. 100% jam flop
Agreed. I dont have much issue with way op played hand, just think jamming flop is better than small bet. I dont agree with posters that say we should raise bigger pre for the reason of making people fold, thats what most of debate has been about
Rancid why would we enjoy seeing a flop multi way with AA GT ?
why would we like less equity ? 4 way flop looking at 60-70% only for AA
Because people calling me with worse hands is usually good. Yes I will have less equity, doesnt always make it less profitable.
For example, my equity here is about 67% v all 3 hands and 87% v KJ preflop. Lets assume I openshove with effective stacks 100BB. Which is more profitable getting it in 4way or head up? Now as lolraise has pointed out equities arent that useful here with more money to go in pot and I have way oversimplified the situation with example above, but I think it shows going multiway might be more profitable and I think it should be here given effective stacks
idonkcallu think your wrong here grantorino of course u want to win a bigger pot and u are ok multiway ? i would want this heads up with aa id rather win a small pot then risk losing my whole stack with aa multiway its all about grinding in cash this is just 1 hand and loads more to play just raise big pre and take the pot y play multiway when u have more chance of losing
See above about why I am happy multiway. As for losing my stack, who cares if Im rolled properly? Why would you want to take pot down with the nuts? It is about grinding which is why I want to maximise my EV here, even if it means I lose more often
There may be good reasons to raise bigger pre, but making worse hands fold should not be one imo, especially with stack to pot ratios so low
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This is why i prefer this site to any other,when you get the top cash player giving advice for no other reason than just wanting to help.
breath of fresh air.
you could 4bet slightly bigge pre, but its by no means terrible! ppl are def nitpickin & some aint makin any sense at all imo. 100% jam flop
Agreed. I dont have much issue with way op played hand, just think jamming flop is better than small bet. I dont agree with posters that say we should raise bigger pre for the reason of making people fold, thats what most of debate has been about
Rancid
why would we enjoy seeing a flop multi way with AA GT ?
why would we like less equity ? 4 way flop looking at 60-70% only for AA
Because people calling me with worse hands is usually good. Yes I will have less equity, doesnt always make it less profitable.
For example, my equity here is about 67% v all 3 hands and 87% v KJ preflop. Lets assume I openshove with effective stacks 100BB. Which is more profitable getting it in 4way or head up? Now as lolraise has pointed out equities arent that useful here with more money to go in pot and I have way oversimplified the situation with example above, but I think it shows going multiway might be more profitable and I think it should be here given effective stacks
idonkcallu
think your wrong here grantorino of course u want to win a bigger pot and u are ok multiway ? i would want this heads up with aa id rather win a small pot then risk losing my whole stack with aa multiway its all about grinding in cash this is just 1 hand and loads more to play just raise big pre and take the pot y play multiway when u have more chance of losing
See above about why I am happy multiway. As for losing my stack, who cares if Im rolled properly? Why would you want to take pot down with the nuts? It is about grinding which is why I want to maximise my EV here, even if it means I lose more often
There may be good reasons to raise bigger pre, but making worse hands fold should not be one imo, especially with stack to pot ratios so low