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Shove and hope??

debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
edited January 2012 in The Poker Clinic
As said do i just shove here all of the time after my pre flop play , not worried about eventual outcome win/lose , just wanna know cos of pot size i wanna call here if poss yeah ?
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
debdobs_67 Small blind  15.00 15.00 1895.00
tizzyman Big blind  30.00 45.00 4020.00
 Your hole cards
  • Q
  • Q
   
flashjnr28 Call  30.00 75.00 2000.00
lea116311 Fold     
cici Call  30.00 105.00 2772.50
rocco12311 Fold     
debdobs_67 Raise  135.00 240.00 1760.00
tizzyman Fold     
flashjnr28 Call  120.00 360.00 1880.00
cici Call  120.00 480.00 2652.50
Flop
  
  • K
  • Q
  • 8
   
debdobs_67 All-in  1760.00 2240.00 0.00
flashjnr28 Call  1760.00 4000.00 120.00
cici Fold     
debdobs_67 Show
  • Q
  • Q
   
flashjnr28 Show
  • 9
  • A
   
Turn
  
  • 9
   
River
  
  • 10
   
flashjnr28 Win Flush to the Ace 4000.00  4120.00
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited January 2012
    Raise more pre imo 150 here so at least 200, nit-picky but they will still call so go for the max.

    Flop just bet standard so here like 350-400, by shoving you prevent him from bluffing/making mistakes, you force him to play correctly. 
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited January 2012
    Krazy

    Bet 250, n SNAPPPPPPPITOFFFFFF
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: Shove and hope??:
    Raise more pre imo 150 here so at least 200, nit-picky but they will still call so go for the max. Flop just bet standard so here like 350-400, by shoving you prevent him from bluffing/making mistakes, you force him to play correctly. 
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    Its a bounty hunter , that means MOST will call my all-in with 2 pair , top pair and ofc a flush draw
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: Shove and hope??:
    Krazy Bet 250, n SNAPPPPPPPITOFFFFFF
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Dont get this ??
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited January 2012
    Yes MOST will call with those hands but if they don't have them you lose value, you have like the 3rd nuts ruling out different types of flopped flush so don't wanna scare people away. 


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  • sonnyjimmysonnyjimmy Member Posts: 144
    edited January 2012
    I like that shove, good agression. If he was drawing with only one diamond he wouldnt of had the odds to call,
    but think alot of the time players dont think about weather they have the correct odds or not and call anyway!
    Well played.
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  • DrSharpDrSharp Member Posts: 1,213
    edited January 2012
    I think it may be too aggressive. By shoving, i think you may be folding out a few hands that you beat, for example, flush draws, straight draws and the odd raggy King. I would want them to come along for another street at least to get max value.

    Rightly or wrongly, i would bet about 380 and then call the shove. In this hand, its all going in anyway. I dont actually hate the shove, its a bounty hunter so your right in saying you will get loose calls, but i just think we may keep some worse hands in by betting less.
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited January 2012
    much prefer bet 300-350, call it off obv.

    If they have 2pr or better money still goes in. Openshoving means they are more likely to fold top pair and draws, although they will sometimes still call. Also a smaller bet lets them semibluff shove
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