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NL10 AK - NFD +2 Overs - facing all in 70bb and call

rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
edited January 2012 in The Poker Clinic
readless, but from what I have seen I don't rate them at all
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
alcando Small blind   £0.04 £0.04 £7.12
Mrw353 Big blind   £0.08 £0.12 £12.22
  Your hole cards
  • A
  • K
     
GIUSI99 Raise   £0.16 £0.28 £9.39
rancid Raise   £0.40 £0.68 £21.52
notme389 Raise   £0.64 £1.32 £5.56
alcando Fold        
Mrw353 Fold        
GIUSI99 Call   £0.48 £1.80 £8.91
rancid Call   £0.24 £2.04 £21.28
Flop
   
  • 6
  • 4
  • Q
     
GIUSI99 Check        
rancid Check        
notme389 All-in   £5.56 £7.60 £0.00
GIUSI99 Call   £5.56 £13.16 £3.35
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited January 2012
    Well it's effectively a 111bb call as GIUS can't fold.

    I think it's a fold personally as they can't both be on draws and GIUS's smooth call looks super strong to me and if he has a set you only have clubs to hit but then they could pair so you ain't in great shape, plus other guy has to have something shoving for over twice the pot lol.

    Defo fold for me, one player defo get it in but two smells fishy. 
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited January 2012

     

    Are we folding with a very possible live 15 outs , are we crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited January 2012
    What are you putting them each on to have 15 outs?

    I'd say you're FD outs are most you can hope for here.
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: NL10 AK - NFD +2 Overs - facing all in 70bb and call:
    What are you putting them each on to have 15 outs? I'd say you're FD outs are most you can hope for here.
    Posted by Dudeskin8

    Glass is always half full m8’ty

     

    Shall we gamble ?

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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: NL10 AK - NFD +2 Overs - facing all in 70bb and call:
    In Response to Re: NL10 AK - NFD +2 Overs - facing all in 70bb and call : Glass is always half full m8’ty   Shall we gamble ?
    Posted by rancid
    You didn't answer my question :)
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  • GreekWayGreekWay Member Posts: 462
    edited January 2012
    I don't know what the guys hold here.If someone has a set he definitely doesn't go all in with this board.

    Flopped flush maybe? The call seems strong but in these levels I am not sure if someone's understands this matter.

    Decision: IMO you are definitely behind if you call. So probably fold here.

    Regarding your say about the 16 live outs I think the only way of winning if you call is by hitting a club,not by hitting top pair,two pairs, set etc.
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: NL10 AK - NFD +2 Overs - facing all in 70bb and call:
    In Response to Re: NL10 AK - NFD +2 Overs - facing all in 70bb and call : You didn't answer my question :)
    Posted by Dudeskin8

    I ask the questions round here )

     

    From what I have seen, I don’t rate them

     

    Edited original post

     

    Oppo’s are not REGS I think :S

     

    But I would say giving action on flop, I fancy my chances

    oppo action: shove is bad and so is the flat imo so...........

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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited January 2012
    There is no option to flat as you will have to call ALL turn cards.

    You say you don't rate them if this is true why would you want to gamble here when you can bleed them easier when you have a better hand than this.

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  • crasshcrassh Member Posts: 38
    edited January 2012
    He's behind if he calls but even if we discount the overcards (I think the K is probably live), he's around 40% to win the pot and only had to put in 9 pounds (assuming you go all in rather than call) to get 23/24 pounds, which is below 40%, so it's a mathmatically good call.
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: NL10 AK - NFD +2 Overs - facing all in 70bb and call:
    There is no option to flat as you will have to call ALL turn cards. You say you don't rate them if this is true why would you want to gamble here when you can bleed them easier when you have a better hand than this.
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    i was talking about oppo's flop action

    fair point
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