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Final table hands

Batkin88Batkin88 Member Posts: 1,682
edited January 2012 in The Poker Clinic
Again a few hands which i am either unsure about or believe i played badly. For the record dichoh was massively loose!! I mean masive!!!!!!
1)PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
dichoh Small blind  3000.00 3000.00 422703.69
winner5603 Big blind  6000.00 9000.00 57520.00
  Your hole cards
  • 4
  • A
     
Dreamer21 Fold     
Batkin88 Raise  13500.00 22500.00 64531.96
Massoud10 Fold     
pokarito Fold     
dichoh Call  10500.00 33000.00 412203.69
winner5603 Fold     
Flop
   
  • 2
  • 9
  • Q
     
dichoh Bet  6000.00 39000.00 406203.69
Batkin88 Call  6000.00 45000.00 58531.96
Turn
   
  • 7
     
dichoh Bet  6000.00 51000.00 400203.69
Batkin88 Fold     
dichoh Muck     
dichoh Win  45000.00  445203.69
dichoh Return  6000.00 0.00 451203.69
2)PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
Dreamer21 Small blind  4000.00 4000.00 98696.48
Batkin88 Big blind  8000.00 12000.00 121063.92
  Your hole cards
  • 7
  • 8
     
pokarito Fold     
dichoh Raise  24000.00 36000.00 425767.44
Dreamer21 Fold     
Batkin88 Call  16000.00 52000.00 105063.92
Flop
   
  • 10
  • 2
  • K
     
Batkin88 Check     
dichoh Bet  26000.00 78000.00 399767.44
Batkin88 Fold     
dichoh Muck     
dichoh Win  52000.00  451767.44
dichoh Return  26000.00 0.00 477767.44
3)PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
dichoh Small blind  5000.00 5000.00 548463.92
Batkin88 Big blind  10000.00 15000.00 111063.92
  Your hole cards
  • Q
  • J
     
pokarito Raise  23000.00 38000.00 139472.16
dichoh Call  18000.00 56000.00 530463.92
Batkin88 Call  13000.00 69000.00 98063.92
Flop
   
  • A
  • K
  • 3
     
dichoh Bet  34500.00 103500.00 495963.92
Batkin88 Fold     
pokarito All-in  
4)PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
dichoh Small blind  5000.00 5000.00 665872.16
Batkin88 Big blind  10000.00 15000.00 156127.84
  Your hole cards
  • Q
  • 10
     
dichoh Call  5000.00 20000.00 660872.16
Batkin88 Check     
Flop
   
  • 4
  • 10
  • 10
     
Batkin88 Check     
dichoh Bet  10000.00 30000.00 650872.16
Batkin88 Call  10000.00 40000.00 146127.84
Turn
   
  • Q
     
Batkin88 Check     
dichoh Bet  40000.00 80000.00 610872.16
Batkin88 Call  40000.00 120000.00 106127.84
River
   
  • 3
     
Batkin88 Check     
dichoh Bet  120000.00 240000.00 490872.16
Batkin88 All-in  106127.84 346127.84 0.00
dichoh Unmatched bet  13872.16 332255.68 504744.32
dichoh Show
  • 8
  • 7
   
Batkin88 Show
  • Q
  • 10
   
Batkin88 Win Full House, 10s and Queens 332255.68
Finally exit hand!!
5)PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
Batkin88 Small blind  5000.00 5000.00 312255.68
dichoh Big blind  10000.00 15000.00 509744.32
  Your hole cards
  • A
  • 9
     
Batkin88 Raise  25000.00 40000.00 287255.68
dichoh All-in  509744.32 549744.32 0.00
Batkin88 All-in  287255.68 837000.00 0.00
dichoh Unmatched bet  202488.64 634511.36 202488.64
Batkin88 Show
  • A
  • 9
   
dichoh Show
  • 6
  • 6
   
Flop
   
  • 10
  • 10
  • J
     
Turn
   
  • K
     
River
   
  • 8
     
dichoh Win Two Pairs, 10s and 6s 634511.36  837000.00

Comments

  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited January 2012
    1 - shove or fold pre for me.

    2 - Fold pre.

    3 - Fold pre.

    4 - nh

    5 - nh


  • TalonTalon Member Posts: 1,621
    edited January 2012
      OK my opinion fwiw.

      Hand1:  I dont mind the raise pre but the min bet lead on the flop screams i am weak please take me off this pot, which he duly does So for me either bet more on the flop or just into check to fold mode if you think you are behind.

      Hand 2: You are 18BB deep and you call a raise OOP with a marginal hand hoping to get lucky. I can not understand this at all. You should either be 3-betting or folding in this situation not peeling a flop which at best will give you a draw.

      Hand 3: Not so sure about this one but again you are OOP to the raiser. Correct fold on the flop marginal call pre.

      Hand4:MBN. Normally i would like to have seen a raise on the turn here but this would have lost your customer so all in all very nice.

     Hand5: If you dont get all your chips in the middle here and go broke then you are playing it wrong. A suited ace HU is massive and against a very loose player this is where you want to be getting all your chips in everytime. Turned out to be a race but still perfectly played.

     Unlucky on missing out on the top spot but nicely done anyway.
  • Batkin88Batkin88 Member Posts: 1,682
    edited January 2012

    I am obv posting for help but regarding the 3rd hand with QJ am in not obliged to call 3 handed with the two already in? Or priced in?

  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited January 2012
    You have 11 big blinds pre in QJ hand, you can't 'peel' with this size stack lol
  • Batkin88Batkin88 Member Posts: 1,682
    edited January 2012
    i understand that but it's 13k to win 69 k
  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited January 2012
    But you only have a pot bet behind, hard to play poker in that situation lol
  • jakallyjakally Member Posts: 421
    edited January 2012

    Hand 1 -
     I either jam or fold. I don't want to raise out of a 13BB stack, and either fold to a shove, or have to fold the flop.

    Hand 2 -
    A 15BB stack is a perfect reshove stack (with no antes), and I will do anything to protect it (i.e. don't want to call off any chips).
    With a 15BB stack (same applies kind of 13 - 19BB's), if someone opens then I shove or fold.
    If you think they fold this a fair percentage of the time (say 50% +) then 78s is ok to reshove with as you will have ok equity, most of the time,when they call.

    Hand 3 -
    Jam or fold - we can't be calling chips off from a 11BB stack. You have no fold equity, but a jam isn't the worst play in the world, particularly if the button has been opening often enough.

    Hand 4 -
    Well played - like it.

    Hand 5 -
    Just UL obv.

    I like your hand analysis posts Batkin - no BS, and you don't mind putting up hands where you may get some criticism. Keep them coming.


  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited January 2012

    1.     fold or shove pre, as played fold or jam flop bet

    2.     fold or shove pre

    3.     fold or shove pre

    4.     raise pre, as played = happy clap hands

    Kinda understand the check pre

    What if u miss flop, just bet any flop if it’s checked to you I guess ?

    5.     standard

  • Batkin88Batkin88 Member Posts: 1,682
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: Final table hands:
    Hand 1 -  I either jam or fold. I don't want to raise out of a 13BB stack, and either fold to a shove, or have to fold the flop. Hand 2 - A 15BB stack is a perfect reshove stack (with no antes), and I will do anything to protect it (i.e. don't want to call off any chips). With a 15BB stack (same applies kind of 13 - 19BB's), if someone opens then I shove or fold. If you think they fold this a fair percentage of the time (say 50% +) then 78s is ok to reshove with as you will have ok equity, most of the time,when they call. Hand 3 - Jam or fold - we can't be calling chips off from a 11BB stack. You have no fold equity, but a jam isn't the worst play in the world, particularly if the button has been opening often enough. Hand 4 - Well played - like it. Hand 5 - Just UL obv. I like your hand analysis posts Batkin - no BS, and you don't mind putting up hands where you may get some criticism. Keep them coming.
    Posted by jakally
    Cheers for the help i use to post hands which tbh i knew the answer and kinda realised if really want to improve i need to take the criticism on board :)
  • Batkin88Batkin88 Member Posts: 1,682
    edited January 2012

    Ok to summarise this thread :

    Hand 1) Fold as i dont want to be shoving with that kicker as getting called by most aces

    Hand 2) Against lag opponent fold otherwise re shove is an option

    Hand 3) Fold pre

    Hand 4) My only issue was the check on the river as didn't know if that was bad long term?? But he was so aggro i did feel he would put me in

    Hand 5) I am not very familiar with HU so wasnt sure if A9 was good enough to get it in with going by posts it is.

  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited January 2012
    1) i Fold pre

    2) 15bb i prob shove or fold pre here as its a LAG person who raised dont mind either

    3) Hate it Fold pre

    4) NH played to per-fect-ion :D

    5) 28 bigs is quite deep but due to ur opponent i dont mind, i probably fold myself though UL tho 


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