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Line check - Cash - Folding AKo Pre
TommyD
Member Posts: 4,389
Hey Guys.
MOT-ing my game again, been playing awful lately. This was a headache moment from NLHE100. All fine? Left in the names as we don't get to see any hands but mine.
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| brasillego | Small blind | £0.50 | £0.50 | £127.79 | |
| Curt360x27 | Big blind | £1.00 | £1.50 | £97.50 | |
| varney | Sit out | ||||
| Your hole cards |
| ||||
| LOL_RAISE | Raise | £3.00 | £4.50 | £144.70 | |
| TommyD | Raise | £8.00 | £12.50 | £178.89 | |
| rst19 | Call | £8.00 | £20.50 | £160.40 | |
| brasillego | Call | £7.50 | £28.00 | £120.29 | |
| Curt360x27 | Fold | ||||
| LOL_RAISE | Raise | £21.00 | £49.00 | £123.70 | |
| TommyD | Fold | ||||
| rst19 | Call | £16.00 | £65.00 | £144.40 | |
| brasillego | Call | £16.00 | £81.00 | £104.29 | |
| Flop | |||||
| |||||
| brasillego | Check | ||||
| LOL_RAISE | Bet | £39.00 | £120.00 | £84.70 | |
| rst19 | Fold | ||||
| brasillego | Fold | ||||
| LOL_RAISE | Muck | ||||
| LOL_RAISE | Win | £79.20 | £163.90 | ||
| LOL_RAISE | Return | £39.00 | |||
Comments
Personally I think the peel is the worst option, I've got two cold 3bet calls behind, I'm OOP to one of them. LOL Raise is well aggro obviously but can he continue that light here with what's behind me?
Just calling is horrible, because you've got 2 other players who have just cold called your 3 bet, if one of them 5 bets, you've basically donated another £16 to the pot. Also, what do you do most of the time when you miss the flop, knowing Lol_Raise will probably bet 100% of the time?
I think this is a pretty good fold, tbh.
When was this btw? If it's during Happy Hour, Lol_Raise would presumably be playing more tables and might play differently as a result?
that would be the best hh ever if it didnt cost me like €1k. atleast he flatted river cos he likes me
takin the villian into account i get it in, for those who say flat, it is terrible, dont flat pre & dont flat the 4bet i much prefer your 3bet/fold than that
If your hand reading like Phil Galfond, then sure go ahead take your AK to the flop 4 ways and play what will generally be a difficult spot unless you happen to flop the nuts.
Don't think lolraise's range is too predictable here just because he's UTG, I reckon he can/will profitably 4 bet lots of hands that hes opened with in this spot if the two rec's have been checkfolding alot post flop and he thinks TD is gonna fold all but AA/KK/AK/ (QQ). In this case TD even folded AK which I'm sure is probably suprising to lolraise.
Given that fact the he can make these plays with ATC UTG make it worthwhile to get in
The question is though, does it make it profitbale enough long term v this kind of play as when he has the hand he is repping we lose a chunk, when he folds to our 4 or 5 bet we only win a little
If he only makes the play with ATC 10% of the time then emmmmmmmmm
+EV ?
My 3bet sizing was to induce. The plan changed as your 4bet size might as well have had 'shove me' printed on it. This is where the self levelling came into play. You've put me in a lovely tough spot as flatting the 4bet for me is probably the worst option and we're in stack committing territory if I 5bet. You've bet an amount that IMO has little chance of getting through all three players and you're more than good enough to know this. In play I felt it was a bet to induce me rather than a light 4bet. I could well be wrong and you were planning to fire any flop as well if flatted, if so, very nicely done. In fact either way very nicely played.
Also I agree with most of what Jakally has said. Flatting a first raise sometimes with AK is a very good idea which I do employ.
i think i prob shove the Ak but looks so marginal
would be interested if people would play JJ or QQ differently in the same spot???