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Tried a new line with KK but think I got caught... Thoughts..

FlashFlushFlashFlush Member Posts: 4,494
edited January 2012 in The Poker Clinic
Well clearly this didn't go to plan. My view on this, obviously the open raise is standard, I then get flat called by a reg. 3bet comes from a reg who likes to play more pots than normal IMO. A standard 3bet at this level would be £3.60, so when he makes it £4.40 I decide to try and trap him (providing he doesn't have AA of course). If the 3bet was less I would of 4bet to avoid a 3way pot, but then TTayseer flat calls which I didn't want. I still think I'm trapping on the flop with the view of shoving the turn. Weh nTT who has showed no strength shoves I think I have to fold.

Looking back it would of been better to just 4bet with the view of getting it in and I should stop trying to get sneeky.... Opinions please
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
bet3pm_co Small blind  £0.20 £0.20 £38.80
AceWise Big blind  £0.40 £0.60 £80.50
  Your hole cards
  • K
  • K
     
FlashFlush Raise  £1.20 £1.80 £65.74
gerrard9 Fold     
TTayseer Call  £1.20 £3.00 £45.43
VINEY73 Fold     
bet3pm_co Raise  £4.20 £7.20 £34.60
AceWise Fold     
FlashFlush Call  £3.20 £10.40 £62.54
TTayseer Call  £3.20 £13.60 £42.23
Flop
   
  • J
  • 8
  • 9
     
bet3pm_co Bet  £10.20 £23.80 £24.40
FlashFlush Call  £10.20 £34.00 £52.34
TTayseer All-in  £42.23 £76.23 £0.00
bet3pm_co Fold     
FlashFlush Fold     
TTayseer Muck     
TTayseer Win  £42.40  £42.40
TTayseer Return  £32.03 £1.80 £74.43

Comments

  • huuuuumehuuuuume Member Posts: 569
    edited January 2012
    every time in my living memory that i have 4 bet against bet3pm he has then 5 bet with his aces and i have gone broke lol

    ttayseer isnt shoving anything here that you are beating in my opinion - with the way he plays the worse he has here is a big combo draw but mostly i would put him on sets.  he is good enough to know that both you and bet3pm are holding big hands and is still choosing to put his whole stack in.

    i 4bet get it in pre here but its one of those gross spots where bet2pm's 3 bet range oop is so small that AA makes up the main part of it

    bet3pm starts the hand with £38 so i dont like 4bet/folding either.

    horrible spot and looks likes you lost the minimum on this occasion
  • huuuuumehuuuuume Member Posts: 569
    edited January 2012

    also, the key thing is its bet3pm and you can 100% guarantee his hand wasnt anything other than an overpair because he will never c bet that flop if he misses it. 

  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited January 2012
    prefer the tarp in non multiway pots.

    I would just 4bet vs a squeeze and be all like IM ALL IN, IF YOU'VE GOT WHAT IT TAKES YOU CAN PLAY HIGH STAKES.....



    Flop is just a whole world of meh relative to our hand. sadface :(
  • Poker_FailPoker_Fail Member Posts: 1,755
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: Tried a new line with KK but think I got caught... Thoughts..:
    prefer the tarp in non multiway pots. I would just 4bet vs a squeeze and be all like IM ALL IN, IF YOU'VE GOT WHAT IT TAKES YOU CAN PLAY HIGH STAKES..... Flop is just a whole world of meh relative to our hand. sadface :(
    Posted by beaneh
    You spelt sadfase wrong
  • pryce6pryce6 Member Posts: 1,058
    edited January 2012
    Yeah bet3pm has Aces, who knows what TT had. In fact he probably doesn't know himself. The definition of button clicking monkey.

    I think you've got a decent chance of being ahead but I don't mind folding either. Got yourself in a mess - best just to move on!
  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited January 2012
    tarp???

  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited January 2012
    yeah once bet 3bets hes prob never folding

    once TTaysser has called hes never folding to a 3bet

    4bet and get in all the monies

    fwiw TTayser has IMO 88/99/TT/JJ/QT/AThh and thats it
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