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draws

pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
edited January 2012 in The Poker Clinic
quick question about draws. in this situation i pretty certain i am ahead.  if 1 of them is on a flush draw and the other is on a straight draw does it change the odds on me calling this. i know if they are both on a flush draw then i will win this more times than i lose and the same on the str draw, but like i say if they are going for different outs do i still win more often than not?
-LEON-Small blind £0.05£0.05£13.10
bluedo01Big blind £0.10£0.15£25.40
 Your hole cards
  • 9
  • 9
   
Texas0ldamRaise £0.30£0.45£8.55
isthatHERCall £0.30£0.75£11.64
pod1Call £0.30£1.05£12.34
-LEON-Call £0.25£1.30£12.85
bluedo01Fold    
Flop
  
  • 7
  • 9
  • 6
   
-LEON-Check    
Texas0ldamBet £0.65£1.95£7.90
isthatHERCall £0.65£2.60£10.99
pod1Raise £2.28£4.88£10.06
-LEON-Fold    
Texas0ldamAll-in £7.90£12.78£0.00
isthatHERAll-in £10.99£23.77£0.00

Comments

  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited January 2012
    Call and house up wiiiiii
  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited January 2012
    not answering my question mate!!!
  • SHANXTASHANXTA Member Posts: 1,507
    edited January 2012
    if they have 2 seperate sets of outs then yes ofc it will decrease your equity in the hand as opposed to them both flush drawing 4 example.

    however with a 3 way all in you are obv gettin a far better price on your money and need less equity for the call to still be +ev, if that makes some kind of rambled sense
  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited January 2012
    so in this case im getting 2:1 on calling and if i am ahead (which i think i am) then its an insta call.
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited January 2012
    Think your question has been answered above....

    But when I hold the nuts in a situation like this (dont nit pik, uv got the nuts) I want as many callers as possible. Fist pump/getting it in 7 ways on a 6 handed table plz. 

    There's a good chance they hold the same draw & are blocking eachothers outs anyway & weaker made hands that are drawing nearly dead etc.

  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited January 2012
    Still got 58% equity
  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited January 2012
    like jj said, i wouldnt have felt right not to call it

  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited January 2012
    Also why can't either not have 66/77 ?
  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited January 2012
    who said they didnt!!!! i said i was "pretty" sure i was ahead. it would be better for me if they did. they might have the str already as well.
  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited January 2012
    Been a way for awhile as was plain perma tilted and playing scared due to it,

    Again in this spot if your healthly rolled this is an easy call, not caring too much about the math.  If they draw out they draw out, but should be hugely happy for the action.  Tonnes of players will play hands that are drawing nigh to dead strong here also (protecting OP's etc).
  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited January 2012
    tnx aymbr, good to see you back

  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited January 2012
    cheers bud. 
  • DrSharpDrSharp Member Posts: 1,213
    edited January 2012
    Pretty much as SHANXTA says. % chance of winning at showdown decreases but when you do hold you win more. Should be extremely happy to call off! Even if they make their hands, remember that you also have quite a few outs yourself which decreases their % also.


    What happened?
  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited January 2012
    -LEON-Small blind £0.05£0.05£13.10
    bluedo01Big blind £0.10£0.15£25.40
     Your hole cards
    • 9
    • 9
       
    Texas0ldamRaise £0.30£0.45£8.55
    isthatHERCall £0.30£0.75£11.64
    pod1Call £0.30£1.05£12.34
    -LEON-Call £0.25£1.30£12.85
    bluedo01Fold    
    Flop
      
    • 7
    • 9
    • 6
       
    -LEON-Check    
    Texas0ldamBet £0.65£1.95£7.90
    isthatHERCall £0.65£2.60£10.99
    pod1Raise £2.28£4.88£10.06
    -LEON-Fold    
    Texas0ldamAll-in £7.90£12.78£0.00
    isthatHERAll-in £10.99£23.77£0.00
    pod1Call £9.36£33.13£0.70
    Texas0ldamShow
    • 2
    • 4
       
    isthatHERShow
    • 10
    • J
       
    pod1Show
    • 9
    • 9
       
    Turn
      
    • 5
       
    River
      
    • J
       
    pod1WinThree 9s£31.73 £32.43
  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited January 2012
    Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! :p nh
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