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river descions

jams88jams88 Member Posts: 694
edited January 2012 in The Poker Clinic
whats to be done on these to rivers?
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
jams88 Small blind   £0.04 £0.04 £10.20
sambo76 Big blind   £0.08 £0.12 £8.14
  Your hole cards
  • J
  • J
     
DJSNEAKZ Call   £0.08 £0.20 £4.08
sulleyboy Fold        
yidend Fold        
jams88 Raise   £0.20 £0.40 £10.00
sambo76 Call   £0.16 £0.56 £7.98
DJSNEAKZ Fold        
Flop
   
  • 5
  • 10
  • 9
     
jams88 Bet   £0.42 £0.98 £9.58
sambo76 Call   £0.42 £1.40 £7.56
Turn
   
  • 10
     
jams88 Bet   £0.70 £2.10 £8.88
sambo76 Call   £0.70 £2.80 £6.86
River
   
  • 2
     
jams88 Bet   £1.40 £4.20 £7.48
sambo76 Raise   £2.80 £7.00 £4.06
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
eagle05 Sit out        
yidend Small blind   £0.04 £0.04 £9.64
TF Big blind   £0.08 £0.12 £12.32
  Your hole cards
  • 6
  • 6
     
suzy666 Fold        
jams88 Raise   £0.16 £0.28 £7.72
tom14760 Call   £0.16 £0.44 £6.02
yidend Fold        
TF Call   £0.08 £0.52 £12.24
Flop
   
  • 3
  • J
  • J
     
TF Check        
jams88 Bet   £0.26 £0.78 £7.46
tom14760 Fold        
TF Call   £0.26 £1.04 £11.98
Turn
   
  • J
     
TF Check        
jams88 Bet   £0.72 £1.76 £6.74
TF Call   £0.72 £2.48 £11.26
River
   
  • 4
     
TF Check        
jams88 Bet   £1.20 £3.68 £5.54
TF Raise   £6.56 £10.24 £4.70

Comments

  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited January 2012
    1st - Raise 4x pre maybe even 5x. River sigh fold for me.

    2nd - Raise 3x pre just standard raise, I'd rather limp than minraise. River weird but probz has to be fold I think very tricky though.
  • Andyl1986Andyl1986 Member Posts: 73
    edited January 2012
    Prob wanna increase the preflop raises as Dudeskin says.  1st hand is probably a reluctant fold as you're aren't beating much when he raises the river.  2nd is tricky, guess it depends on the opponent.
  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited January 2012
    pre flop bet sizes are all wrong.  1st one c/c river @ this level.

    2nd one is ugly.  Dont like river lead.  But line is understandable.  Think you have to give up b/l @ turn.  Tricky tho.  Raise more pre, min from there makes no sense, just lost in the hand.
  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited January 2012
    call


    fold
  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: river descions:
    call fold
    Posted by rancid
    You say call but what do you think he's minraising with on river that you beat ?
  • NColleyNColley Member Posts: 1,178
    edited January 2012

    Hand 1 - check/call river, give villian chance to bluff missed draws and bet his 9x or medium pair hands while minimizing losses if he has the 10 or a wierdly played aces or kings.

    Hand 2 - I think I prob call at the time, seems more likely that villian hit the 4 then has the J or a higher pair.

  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: river descions:
    In Response to Re: river descions : You say call but what do you think he's minraising with on river that you beat ?
    Posted by Dudeskin8

    JJ hand

    What percentage of the time is oppo min raising with a bluff/9/underpair

    How bad is oppo, what does oppo normally do here ?

     

    I don’t know but, I am not folding for the price I am getting

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