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Flopped a set on a wet board...

davelufcdavelufc Member Posts: 1,374
edited January 2012 in The Poker Clinic
Only level 2 £5 BH, what to do when oppo shoves?
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
davelufc Small blind  15.00 15.00 2325.00
gibala24 Big blind  30.00 45.00 4040.00
  Your hole cards
  • 10
  • 10
     
iggy73 Call  30.00 75.00 2595.00
zolabud121 Fold     
Bunski Fold     
davelufc Raise  75.00 150.00 2250.00
gibala24 Fold     
iggy73 Call  60.00 210.00 2535.00
Flop
   
  • J
  • 10
  • K
     
davelufc Bet  150.00 360.00 2100.00
iggy73 All-in  2535.00 2895.00

Comments

  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited January 2012
    Snap fold.


    Nah jokes obvz ez call :).
  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited January 2012
    raise more pre.

    Get it in vs 2prs, 1pr + draws and A's

    Saw a bizarre hand other day like this on season 2 of the big game 910J with two hearts I think it was.  He leads, gets raised n re raised by 10J and Kh2h.

    He opts to fold fearing the made straight and the heart draw.  They run it twice.  Hearts get there on first one.  J gets there for J's over 10's on second one.  He is uber relieved and sincerely thinks it was a good fold.

    It wasnt. 

    I used to obsess in these spots and was abit ignorant tbh.(yes...yes...).  When you increase volume significantly it just becomes simple.  Yes he could have a made hand.

    But odds are that weaker hands do this also and well... we can always bink 1/3 when they are made.

    Plus if you are rolled, when they do have it and we dont bink its just a sigh move on.
  • chinooka21chinooka21 Member Posts: 19
    edited January 2012

    With no player reads, There are 4 hands that beat you, QA Q9 KK and JJ.

    The draws out are 89 for a str draw and just a queen or a Queen and a pair like QJ,QK and QT for a Up and down str draw which you beat atm.
    Out of those hands which limp call raises?

    Unless he is either bad or laying a trap you can discount KK and JJ. That leaves QA, Q9 which you are under dog with only 35% chance of improving. And you are ahead of all other hands 89 and all other Qx hands by 75%

    Again QA most people raise QA, rightly or wrongly I would discount that so In my head its Q9 or 2 pair or Qx.

    I would make the call as you are ahead of most of the hands that would shove here and if you are faced with QA or Q9 you still have 10 outs.

  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited January 2012
    don't fold
  • davelufcdavelufc Member Posts: 1,374
    edited January 2012
    Cheers , Sky could have at least waited til the river to knock me out lol!!!
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    davelufc Small blind  15.00 15.00 2325.00
    gibala24 Big blind  30.00 45.00 4040.00
      Your hole cards
    • 10
    • 10
         
    iggy73 Call  30.00 75.00 2595.00
    zolabud121 Fold     
    Bunski Fold     
    davelufc Raise  75.00 150.00 2250.00
    gibala24 Fold     
    iggy73 Call  60.00 210.00 2535.00
    Flop
       
    • J
    • 10
    • K
         
    davelufc Bet  150.00 360.00 2100.00
    iggy73 All-in  2535.00 2895.00 0.00
    davelufc All-in  2100.00 4995.00 0.00
    iggy73 Unmatched bet  285.00 4710.00 285.00
    davelufc Show
    • 10
    • 10
       
    iggy73 Show
    • K
    • Q
       
    Turn
       
    • A
         
    River
       
    • 4
         
    iggy73 Win Straight to the Ace 4710.00  4995.00

  • SHANXTASHANXTA Member Posts: 1,507
    edited January 2012
    they did wait til the river as on the turn you are still drawing live

    raise bigger pre

    never fold flop in a £5 BH
  • davelufcdavelufc Member Posts: 1,374
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: Flopped a set on a wet board...:
    they did wait til the river as on the turn you are still drawing live raise bigger pre never fold flop in a £5 BH
    Posted by SHANXTA
    Yup, ur right fella, bit thin tho.

    Agree, should have raised bigger pre, oh well.

    Good advice as always ty.
  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited January 2012

    raise more pre

    never fold sets on the flop <100BB deep and you wont go too far wrong

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