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Rebuy open

rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
edited February 2012 in The Poker Clinic

 Anyone folding :s
Standard all in clap hands ya ?
What we putting oppo on, random player
£11 open rebuy
120 left, sitting 30thish
MTT game sucking lately so just asking for opnions
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
housty49 Small blind   150.00 150.00 10572.50
1mad Big blind   300.00 450.00 1822.50
  Your hole cards
  • K
  • K
     
ian00001 Raise   900.00 1350.00 15015.00
rancid Raise   2700.00 4050.00 15201.25
chats312 Fold        
frielste03 Fold        
housty49 Fold        
1mad Fold        
ian00001 Call   1800.00 5850.00 13215.00
Flop
   
  • 4
  • 9
  • 5
     
ian00001 Check        
rancid Bet   4387.50 10237.50 10813.75
ian00001 Raise   8775.00 19012.50 4440.00
rancid
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  • WHOAMI196WHOAMI196 Member Posts: 1,170
    edited February 2012
    is there still re buys??

    either way really, its a shove but because the board is dry there is poss of a set BUT Air-balling or under pairs to your kk is a poss which are a larger part of his range.
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  • AcidMan27AcidMan27 Member Posts: 3,752
    edited February 2012
    I'd be shipping it here but i'm spewing lately in MTT's.

    I think they show up enough times with Jacks and Queens. They could have 10's, maybe 9's.

    Ace could be a possibility but not sure if they would flat your 3-bet with aces.



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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited February 2012
    Bet flop smaller, n don't fold.
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  • potattoooopotattoooo Member Posts: 145
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: Rebuy open:
    Bet flop smaller, n don't fold.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    THIS
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited February 2012
    yep, what doh said
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  • JameskrJameskr Member Posts: 32
    edited February 2012
    definitely a shove, maybe he's on a9 suited?
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited February 2012
    Why are we betting flop smaller

    So annoying
    Flop
       
    • 4
    • 9
    • 5
    		     
    ian00001 Check        
    rancid Bet   4387.50 10237.50 10813.75
    ian00001 Raise   8775.00 19012.50 4440.00
    rancid All-in   10813.75 29826.25 0.00
    ian00001 All-in   4440.00 34266.25 0.00
    rancid Unmatched bet   1986.25 32280.00 1986.25
    ian00001 Show
    • 9
    • 9
    		     
    rancid Show
    • K
    • K
    		     
    Turn
       
    • Q
    		     
    River
       
    • 2
    		     
    ian00001 Win Three 9s 32280.00   32280.00
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  • Poker_FailPoker_Fail Member Posts: 1,755
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: Rebuy open:
    Why are we betting flop smaller So annoying Flop
    Keep in weaker hands.

    Make some oppo's think they have FE so they can bluff shove overcards, happens a LOT in these rebuy games.
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: Rebuy open:
    In Response to Re: Rebuy open : Keep in weaker hands. Make some oppo's think they have FE so they can bluff shove overcards, happens a LOT in these rebuy games.
    Posted by Poker_Fail
    Seemed like most of the players couldn't spell fold equity
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  • Poker_FailPoker_Fail Member Posts: 1,755
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: Rebuy open:
    In Response to Re: Rebuy open : Seemed like most of the players couldn't spell fold equity
    Posted by rancid
    Probably not but it's not a rare play for an oppo to shove on that flop with AK AQ etc
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited February 2012
    Yeah bet flop smaller as you need to save chips for times you have AK/AQ etc and also let them think they can move you off the hand.

    As played just cooler.
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  • angie6108angie6108 Member Posts: 225
    edited February 2012
    your bet on the flop w as bad then rancid if ya thinking of folding to a shove should of bet smaller 
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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited February 2012
    I likely make it 2300 - 2400 pre.  Gives him more room to shove.

    Its a bad call as it by 9's pre given stacks but you know this.

    Pretty much auto stack off from flop given tourney stage, stacks.  Hate the flop min so much.  I think I open about 10-15% smaller on flop, but always to get it in.

    Just vul bud.  Flop min is polarising but isnt always going to be a set.  We have 35 bbs left if we fold?  Myeh I prob get stubborn also.  Chalk up as a cooler and open another table.
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: Rebuy open:
    I likely make it 2300 - 2400 pre.  Gives him more room to shove. Its a bad call as it by 9's pre given stacks but you know this. Pretty much auto stack off from flop given tourney stage, stacks.  Hate the flop min so much.  I think I open about 10-15% smaller on flop, but always to get it in. Just vul bud.  Flop min is polarising but isnt always going to be a set.  We have 35 bbs left if we fold?  Myeh I prob get stubborn also.  Chalk up as a cooler and open another table.
    Posted by AMYBR

    This is so annoying because these players calling 3 bet oop with mid prs with not the correct implied odds and just gamble. 3xUTG open and then raises flop, did think AA/set lol - sometimes you just can not account for random bads - most of the time oppo gets stacked on no paint flops gg, cabs outside - not much consolation in a do or die  MTT though :(

    Anyway ofc I am never folding, even though I read as AA/set but just can't fold with so many hands I can beat here - I even doubt oppo would be good enough to flat 3 bet oppo w/AA :S
    Maybe could bet flop smaller and induce aggro shove from worse, future consideration


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  • JackoG9JackoG9 Member Posts: 69
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: Rebuy open:
    In Response to Re: Rebuy open : This is so annoying because these players calling 3 bet oop with mid prs with not the correct implied odds and just gamble. 3xUTG open and then raises flop, did think AA/set lol - sometimes you just can not account for random bads - most of the time oppo gets stacked on no paint flops gg, cabs outside - not much consolation in a do or die  MTT though :( Anyway ofc I am never folding, even though I read as AA/set but just can't fold with so many hands I can beat here - I even doubt oppo would be good enough to flat 3 bet oppo w/AA :S Maybe could bet flop smaller and induce aggro shove from worse, future consideration
    Posted by rancid
    Hate this feeling - having to call when you 'know' you're beaten. But his call of your 3 bet was more likely to be tens, JJ or QQ than nines, which is a very bad call as been stated. Min raise on flop is a worry but you've put too much in by then in my opinion.
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