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thoughts on this

3barrels3barrels Member Posts: 434
edited February 2012 in The Poker Clinic
right i know after the flop that i am well behind here i knew overpair was obvious i was hoping it was not AA as in this spot im 44% to win this so i called for the gamble if u dont gamble u dont win i want views and feedback
berni3 Small blind   £0.05 £0.05 £5.43
3barrels Big blind   £0.10 £0.15 £19.73
  Your hole cards
  • 9
  • A
     
liam690 Raise   £0.40 £0.55 £29.50
pearson714 Fold        
acesadam86 Call   £0.40 £0.95 £3.51
STR1BS Fold        
berni3 Fold        
3barrels Call   £0.30 £1.25 £19.43
Flop
   
  • 5
  • 6
  • 7
     
3barrels Check        
liam690 Bet   £1.25 £2.50 £28.25
acesadam86 All-in   £3.51 £6.01 £0.00
3barrels Call   £3.51 £9.52 £15.92
liam690 All-in   £28.25 £37.77 £0.00
3barrels All-in   £15.92 £53.69 £0.00
liam690 Unmatched bet   £10.07 £43.62 £10.07
3barrels Show
  • 9
  • A
     
liam690 Show
  • K
  • K
     
acesadam86 Show
  • 3
  • 3
     
Turn
   
  • 4
     
River
   
  • 7
     
acesadam86 Win Straight to the 7 £11.40   £11.40
liam690 Win Two Pairs, Kings and 7s £30.82   £40.89
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited February 2012
    Preflop a fold for me mate 4 x UTG gotta be smashing A9

    After flop im getting it in as quick as poss!
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  • 3barrels3barrels Member Posts: 434
    edited February 2012
    yes young_gun right there fold pre i useally fold A 9 no probs but table was loose from wot i was watching
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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited February 2012
    I peel flop without hesitation, for variety of reasons.

    Not sure on flop tbh. We have 8 -12 (i wouldnt be counting the A's) outs having 36 - 52%.  Dont love calling it off.  Plenty happy to make the last bet though.  If rolled i prob call.

    Dont like the flat on flop in honesty (of £3.51).  If being willing to station the shove, am much happier 3 betting myself.  Making calling the shove easy (mathwise) rather than marginal.

    Ignoring opponents range, we only give ourselves one way to win this hand.
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  • WHOAMI196WHOAMI196 Member Posts: 1,170
    edited February 2012
    Would be a more interesting thread if you stopped the h/h on your turn to act on the flop, after liam shoved. 

    Back to the hand, i think i would have lead the flop tbh, would hate it to go check-check, and i agree with amybr i hate calling off my stack with draws (even if ahead of his range), i prefer to put the decision to my opponent to make the gamble call, but as played very UL.


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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited February 2012
    shove on the first all in, hope your A's are outs :s

    calling off 200bb with FD+GS is not ideal
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited February 2012
    Fold or 3bet pre imo.
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: thoughts on this:
    Fold or 3bet pre imo.
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    For once i agree with Mr Dudenit ;) 
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: thoughts on this:
    In Response to Re: thoughts on this : For once i agree with Mr Dudenit ;) 
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    When I say fold or 3bet pre I mean someone who has sufficient 'balls' would 3bet I would just fold like a good nit :).
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited February 2012

    flatting pre is much better than 3betting oop or folding 200BB deep imo

    postflop Im never folding, whether I raise or flat shorty shove depends on how I view villain, but Im generally raising, as played snapcall

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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: thoughts on this:
    flatting pre is much better than 3betting oop or folding 200BB deep imo postflop Im never folding, whether I raise or flat shorty shove depends on how I view villain, but Im generally raising, as played snapcall
    Posted by grantorino
    Disagree alot its better to 3 bet then call as we take some initiative also they can fold some marginal hands.

    Hate calling as only flop we will be happy with is hearts etc, also likely someone has better ace so prefer fold

    fold>3bet>call IMO 
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: thoughts on this:
    In Response to Re: thoughts on this : Disagree alot its better to 3 bet then call as we take some initiative also they can fold some marginal hands 
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    If you like playing inflated pots oop deep with A9 go ahead and raise. He wont fold that many better hands or call with that many worse and postflop will nearly always be tricky. Calling with a hand that can flop good nut draws and has decent equity against his opening range is fine this deep imo, esp with a shorty in the middle
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  • huuuuumehuuuuume Member Posts: 569
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: thoughts on this:
    In Response to Re: thoughts on this : Disagree alot its better to 3 bet then call as we take some initiative also they can fold some marginal hands. Hate calling as only flop we will be happy with is hearts etc, also likely someone has better ace so prefer fold fold>3bet>call IMO 
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    +1

    calling is too passive
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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: thoughts on this:
    In Response to Re: thoughts on this : If you like playing inflated pots oop deep with A9 go ahead and raise. He wont fold that many better hands or call with that many worse and postflop will nearly always be tricky. Calling with a hand that can flop good nut draws and has decent equity against his opening range is fine this deep imo, esp with a shorty in the middle
    Posted by grantorino
    Think both lines are correct depending on aggro factor of table. When 3 betting pre here we simply arent playing our hand.  We are gaining betting lead and isolating vs 1 player hopefully.  We arent playing strength of hand.  We are looking to pick up dead money, isolate and perhaps hoping for a favourable flop.  Cbetting virtually all boards.

    When flatting we are looking to flop favourably and stack someone multi way or c/f most boards.
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