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River Decision - The board has got funky and we have two pots to play for.
TommyD
Member Posts: 4,389
We've at the action table, getting plenty of action. Villian 1 has been playing close to maniac level this session, been at the table for a couple of hours but my focus has been on a few larger games I also have running, not played him before. Villian 2 is 1/4 of Team Awesome. My papy always told me never to fold a full house, but can I be ahead enough here for this to be profitable? Fold, call or shove for the change please?
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| LUCKYSAMMI | Small blind | £0.50 | £0.50 | £35.16 | |
| shopmate29 | Big blind | £0.50 | £1.00 | £7.50 | |
| Your hole cards |
| ||||
| V2 | Raise | £1.50 | £2.50 | £51.84 | |
| V1 | Raise | £3.00 | £5.50 | £187.43 | |
| TommyD | Call | £3.00 | £8.50 | £246.93 | |
| LUCKYSAMMI | Fold | ||||
| shopmate29 | Fold | ||||
| V2 | Call | £1.50 | £10.00 | £50.34 | |
| Flop | |||||
| |||||
| V2 | Check | ||||
| V1 | Check | ||||
| TommyD | Bet | £7.50 | £17.50 | £239.43 | |
| V2 | Call | £7.50 | £25.00 | £42.84 | |
| V1 | Call | £7.50 | £32.50 | £179.93 | |
| Turn | |||||
| v |
| ||||
| v2 | Check | ||||
| v1 | Check | ||||
| TommyD | Bet | £23.00 | £55.50 | £216.43 | |
| v2 | All-in | £42.84 | £98.34 | £0.00 | |
| v1 | Call | £42.84 | £141.18 | £137.09 | |
| TommyD | Call | £19.84 | £161.02 | £196.59 | |
| River | |||||
| |||||
| v1 | Bet | £49.00 | £210.02 | £88.09 | |
| TommyD | ? | ||||
Comments
Goes back to his weird click back pre for me.
Just depends what you mean by V1 is maniac.
So ugly lol. Only beating A10/910/KJ + AQ. I likely convince myelf of one of those hands and sigh call tho. Surprised you didnt just re ship turn? EDIT: I see that we cant.
Why call the 3-bet pre-flop? Do you have a specific reason to think that the opener won't be 4-betting? Otherwise, surely you must be afraid that you won't see the flop, since you can't close the action here...
Anyway, the river is a toughie, isn't it? You are now beating the straight but the bet into the dry side-pot could be massive strength and you're playing the low-house. Obviously it looks a bit like a blocker bet, though. The play would indicate to me that at least one of them is playing two high cards, and that would surely mean that one of them has the house. On that basis I view the main pot as lost and let this river bet fold me out... beyond that... cry, probably.
If you get it wrong you can always comfort yourself with the phrase: "I knew I should have called/folded"... I always find that helpful.
very thin shove as said above
river lead is KQ,QJ or blocker with straight
sizing looks like blocker but maybe it's meant to look like that :S
If you shove river, surely v1 folds straights anyway dude - only calls with better yada yada )
think id flat river
The general feeling is looking like a call on the river. I just can't see that, the way the play has gone, we have much chance of winning the main pot. There seem like more houses in the range of the two opponents, than straights or KJ. If you take that away, you're being charged £49 to win £49 with the bottom house. Really tough spot, obviously, but I still go with the fold. Though the only advice I'm totally confident in is the part about crying, so stick with that ftw.