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Can I EVER get away from these?

SJspanky1SJspanky1 Member Posts: 620
edited February 2012 in The Poker Clinic
Had a couple of these recently but this one is blind on blind. There's so many other 8x hands or overpairs he can have here isn't there. Taken some heavy losses so far this week and I'm starting to doubt everything I do!!
SJspanky1 Small blind   £0.20 £0.20 £42.37
OCD_man Big blind   £0.40 £0.60 £66.00
  Your hole cards
  • 8
  • A
     
richtea Fold        
welshy1078 Fold        
SJspanky1 Raise   £0.60 £1.20 £41.77
OCD_man Call   £0.40 £1.60 £65.60
Flop
   
  • 2
  • 8
  • 8
     
SJspanky1 Check        
OCD_man Bet   £1.20 £2.80 £64.40
SJspanky1 Call   £1.20 £4.00 £40.57
Turn
   
  • 9
     
SJspanky1 Check        
OCD_man Bet   £3.00 £7.00 £61.40
SJspanky1 Raise   £6.00 £13.00 £34.57
OCD_man All-in   £61.40 £74.40 £0.00
SJspanky1 All-in   £34.57 £108.97 £0.00
OCD_man Unmatched bet   £23.83 £85.14 £23.83
SJspanky1 Show
  • 8
  • A
     
OCD_man Show
  • 2
  • 2
     
River
   
  • 5
     
OCD_man Win Full House, 2s and 8s £83.34



£107.17






Comments

  • SJspanky1SJspanky1 Member Posts: 620
    edited February 2012
     This one I don't really like the turn but fall in love my rivered set. It's a nitty check call though I spose..
     I don't reraise pre as I'm trying to trap AJ who would normally continue bet post flop. No more trapping with people left to act and priced in anymore methinks.
    SJspanky1 Small blind   £0.15 £0.15 £29.70
    chflush Sitout        
    SHANKS474 Big blind   £0.30 £0.45 £28.95
    bedders007 Big blind   £0.30 £0.75 £29.70
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • K
         
    bedders007 Raise   £0.30 £1.05 £29.40
    tatohead Call   £0.60 £1.65 £31.56
    AJ_Rockets Raise   £2.20 £3.85 £26.90
    SJspanky1 Call   £2.05 £5.90 £27.65
    SHANKS474 Fold        
    bedders007 Call   £1.60 £7.50 £27.80
    tatohead Call   £1.60 £9.10 £29.96
    Flop
       
    • 9
    • 5
    • J
         
    SJspanky1 Check        
    bedders007 Check        
    tatohead Check        
    AJ_Rockets Check        
    Turn
       
    • 8
         
    SJspanky1 Bet   £4.55 £13.65 £23.10
    bedders007 Call   £4.55 £18.20 £23.25
    tatohead Fold        
    AJ_Rockets Fold        
    River
       
    • K
         
    SJspanky1 Bet   £9.10 £27.30 £14.00
    bedders007 All-in   £23.25 £50.55 £0.00
    SJspanky1 All-in   £14.00 £64.55 £0.00
    bedders007 Unmatched bet   £0.15 £64.40 £0.15
    SJspanky1 Show
    • K
    • K
         
    bedders007 Show
    • 10
    • 7
         
    bedders007 Win Straight to the Jack £62.60   £62.75
  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited February 2012

    Hand 1. UL

     

    Hand2. Don’t get tricky multi way, bet flop

  • SJspanky1SJspanky1 Member Posts: 620
    edited February 2012
    Yeah trapping is overrated. I should have learned that by watching Hellmuth spew off tens of thousands on various poker shows over the years.
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited February 2012
    Such a good spot to make it 6 quid with the kings!
  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited February 2012
    Hand 1: opponent makes a good bet, cooler mostly.

    Hand 2: really hate flatting K'sfrom the SB multi-way.  Understand why as it seems like action table, but once we do this, and give the free card I think I'm playing for a smaller pot, obv river is a killer though.  But I still think I'm in c/c mode as played.  Board disguises itself on river tho if you know what I mean, easy to say after the fact, but river can easily blindside us in hand, if you catch my drift.
  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited February 2012
    1. bet flop, bet turn as played cooler

    2I dont hate the flat pre, depends on table dynamic whether I flat or 4bet. I just lead flop 4way, rest is just unlucky
  • SJspanky1SJspanky1 Member Posts: 620
    edited February 2012
    Yeah I'm waiting for someone else to bet the flop before I come over the top. I just get this so wrong on both streets, thinking I'm being cunning when I'm just hanging myself. The King on the river is just the Poker Gods punishing me for trying to be cute.
  • WHOAMI196WHOAMI196 Member Posts: 1,170
    edited February 2012
    hand 1, I am very tight in the smb, esp after finding out (pokertracker) that playing even only a small percentage of hands there is a leak, nevertheless its a cooler, when the villain shoves the turn, his hand is very polarised. Reads could help you fold here, as the villain is dying to tell you of what he has.

    hand 2, I don't play tricky on the smb(reasons i mentioned above). As played checking that flop is bad imo (FWIW you could check a dry board?). Leading out is better, me-thinks, purely for the reason its multi-way, v wet board, and that you could get value from many drawing or weak made hands. As played impossible to fold the river.
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