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The "Grim" tale of a low stakes player.

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  • Poker_FailPoker_Fail Member Posts: 1,755
    edited February 2012
    Love the thread title!
  • EvilPinguEvilPingu Member Posts: 3,462
    edited February 2012
    Lol, love the title. :P
  • GaryQQQGaryQQQ Member Posts: 6,804
    edited February 2012
    I'm enjoying this too, reading daily even though I'm not posting. Keep up the good work Ryan.
  • D_LegendD_Legend Member Posts: 335
    edited February 2012
    gl op on this

    one thing i don't no how much time u have in a day but there are a few low buying sat to the main. e.g 1.25 on some day .

    the only thing is that they get u into the semi @ 6pm which u get a seat if u win.
     
    if not the frenzy are nice just have the price of the mini as a buying for the sat max. so 2/3 rebuys for the frenzy is ok.


    also the timed touryment are great to play 5.5 and i'm seen people leave with £50.

    patience in poker is the main thing, there no rush to make a quick buck. use excell to create a streadsheet showing ur br and ur proccess and session that were a problem for u and y they were.

    also in the ecell sheet have a section for rackbak/cashforpoint

    main thing dont cash out!!!!!!!!!!! to long to explain.... but yeh just don't a least till ur broken even
  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited February 2012
    Ryan dont be petty mate , was a honest POV from Benno could have been less blunt but no need to put on title :) 

    Good ruck buddy
  • CrazyBen23CrazyBen23 Member Posts: 865
    edited February 2012
    Haha made me laugh, i dont mind.. I dont take these things to heart, better than most peoples 'my diary'
  • waller02waller02 Member Posts: 9,119
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: The "Grim" tale of a low stakes player. (Not suitable if you are crazy or called ben):
    Haha made me laugh, i dont mind.. I dont take these things to heart, better than most peoples 'my diary'
    Posted by CrazyBen23
    Ok, I guess I overeacted and you didn't mean any offence. It was late and I was tired and in retrospect you did make a valid point (albeit rather bluntly). It's just that myself and others put quite a bit of time into our diaries to try and improve our game and maybe get some advice from time to time.

    Of course tommyd's thread will be a lot more interesting and I will be reading it on a regular basis and trying to learn from it.

    I will remove the crazy and ben bit from the title. No hard feelings.

    However, I will be keeping the grim part because it is PROPER grim atm lol

    Just finished an awful hour session at nl4.......4 tabling, 3 tables pretty steady and 1 table was a nightmare and I lost 2 buy ins. The 3 key hands are below, all comments/advice appreciated. (hand 3....I stood up after this hand as was clearly tilting, I just stuck my last quid in out of sheer frustration....AWFUL)

    Hand 1. Bet sizing ok? Have to go broke yeah
    tumorboy Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £2.55
    bigwasso Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £0.96
      Your hole cards
    • 10
    • 10
         
    Christofox Call  £0.04 £0.10 £0.56
    cliffo1941 Call  £0.04 £0.14 £4.10
    waller02 Raise  £0.20 £0.34 £3.75
    tumorboy Fold     
    bigwasso Fold     
    Christofox Call  £0.16 £0.50 £0.40
    cliffo1941 Call  £0.16 £0.66 £3.94
    Flop
       
    • K
    • 6
    • 10
         
    Christofox Check     
    cliffo1941 Check     
    waller02 Bet  £0.50 £1.16 £3.25
    Christofox All-in  £0.40 £1.56 £0.00
    cliffo1941 Call  £0.50 £2.06 £3.44
    Turn
       
    • 8
         
    cliffo1941 Check     
    waller02 Bet  £1.03 £3.09 £2.22
    cliffo1941 Call  £1.03 £4.12 £2.41
    River
       
    • 3
         
    cliffo1941 All-in  £2.41 £6.53 £0.00
    waller02 All-in  £2.22 £8.75 £0.00
    cliffo1941 Unmatched bet  £0.19 £8.56 £0.19
    Christofox Show
    • K
    • 6
       
    cliffo1941 Show
    • 8
    • J
       
    waller02 Show
    • 10
    • 10
       
    cliffo1941 Win Flush to the King £7.91
    Hand 2. Should/wished I folded pre. Thought I would see a turn card as if I hit I figured I could win a big pot (looking at the hand, not the greatest call on a flushing board!) . No getting away from hand after turn???  
    waller02 Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £4.58
    tumorboy Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £2.27
    3barrels Sit out     
      Your hole cards
    • 5
    • 7
         
    bigwasso Fold     
    cliffo1941 Call  £0.04 £0.10 £7.93
    DadandLad Call  £0.04 £0.14 £10.89
    waller02 Call  £0.02 £0.16 £4.56
    tumorboy Check     
    Flop
       
    • 8
    • Q
    • 4
         
    waller02 Check     
    tumorboy Bet  £0.08 £0.24 £2.19
    cliffo1941 Call  £0.08 £0.32 £7.85
    DadandLad Call  £0.08 £0.40 £10.81
    waller02 Call  £0.08 £0.48 £4.48
    Turn
       
    • 6
         
    waller02 Check     
    tumorboy Bet  £0.20 £0.68 £1.99
    cliffo1941 Fold     
    DadandLad Call  £0.20 £0.88 £10.61
    waller02 Raise  £1.01 £1.89 £3.47
    tumorboy Call  £0.81 £2.70 £1.18
    DadandLad Fold     
    River
       
    • 8
         
    waller02 Bet  £2.03 £4.73 £1.44
    tumorboy All-in  £1.18 £5.91 £0.00
    waller02 Unmatched bet  £0.85 £5.06 £2.29
    waller02 Show
    • 5
    • 7
       
    tumorboy Show
    • 8
    • Q
       
    tumorboy Win Full House, 8s and Queens £4.68
    Hand 3. Just on for the lolz!!! Shocking play, I was that frustrated by the river I thought F it he may have a busted flush draw......AWFUL. Needless to say I stopped playing after this hand.
    waller02 Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £2.58
    tumorboy Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £4.38
    JIMBOB1 Big blind  £0.04 £0.10 £2.36
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • K
         
    JIMBOB1 Check     
    3barrels Fold     
    BIGVAL88 Call  £0.04 £0.14 £4.36
    DadandLad Raise  £0.08 £0.22 £9.19
    waller02 Raise  £0.32 £0.54 £2.26
    tumorboy Fold     
    JIMBOB1 Fold     
    BIGVAL88 Fold     
    DadandLad Call  £0.26 £0.80 £8.93
    Flop
       
    • 7
    • 10
    • 5
         
    waller02 Bet  £0.40 £1.20 £1.86
    DadandLad Call  £0.40 £1.60 £8.53
    Turn
       
    • 6
         
    waller02 Bet  £0.80 £2.40 £1.06
    DadandLad Call  £0.80 £3.20 £7.73
    River
       
    • 2
         
    waller02 Check     
    DadandLad Bet  £3.20 £6.40 £4.53
    waller02 All-in  £1.06 £7.46 £0.00
    DadandLad Unmatched bet  £2.14 £5.32 £6.67
    waller02 Show
    • A
    • K
       
    DadandLad Show
    • J
    • J
       
    DadandLad Win Pair of Jacks £4.92

    Cash: -£7.64

    Start br:£177.35
    Current br:£169.71
  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,947
    edited February 2012
    #Grim

    like it


    Crazy likes all things Grim

    Must say would be easier to create a new folder for all these type of freds and keep away from GPC, does get congested


    keep going wallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllller
    You would be surprised how many players do read/browse em and do not post

  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited February 2012
    10's - nh

    57o - fold pre.

    AKs - bet more on flop, shove turn.
  • waller02waller02 Member Posts: 9,119
    edited February 2012
    I am seriously struggling with cash at the min, I don't think I am playing as bad as my losing sessions suggest. I am making the odd mistake here and there but in general I am playing solid ABC poker (as per dohhhhh's blog) but losing with 2 pair v flush, set v straight etc....

    I am by no means complaining these things happen but the problem is I am not enjoying playing cash, so I think for the next couple of nights I will have a bash at £3.30 dym's with the odd mtt and then go back to cash in a couple days.

    My life/poker experiences have always seemed to be on opposite ends of the spectrum......rather strange! For example, about 18mnths ago my personal life wasn't going great, I was out of work and generally in a bit of a bad place. Yet the poker was going great with some ft's in main events. 18mnths on, my personal life is great I have a job I love and me, my missus and 2 girls have never been happier. But the poker.........well you can see, not great!

    Anyway poker is my hobby and being happy in life is MUCH more important.....still, I wouldn't mind a bit of run good though!

    Tonight I have had another poor cash session and bust out of a £250 with the hand I am posting below, would appreciate any comments.

    Cash: -£8.96
    Mtt: -£5.50

    Start br: £169.71
    Current br: £155.25

    Here is my exit hand from the £250 gtd....played ok?
    waller02 Small blind  50.00 50.00 4245.00
    splashies Big blind  100.00 150.00 4550.00
     Your hole cards
    • A
    • Q
       
    hector45 Fold     
    Spadger23 Fold     
    tie1970 Call  100.00 250.00 4980.00
    bighead226 Fold     
    waller02 Raise  350.00 600.00 3895.00
    splashies Call  300.00 900.00 4250.00
    tie1970 Fold     
    Flop
      
    • 4
    • 2
    • 2
       
    waller02 Bet  500.00 1400.00 3395.00
    splashies Call  500.00 1900.00 3750.00
    Turn
      
    • 6
       
    waller02 Bet  950.00 2850.00 2445.00
    splashies Call  950.00 3800.00 2800.00
    River
      
    • Q
       
    waller02 All-in  2445.00 6245.00 0.00
    splashies Call  2445.00 8690.00 355.00
    waller02 Show
    • A
    • Q
       
    splashies Show
    • 6
    • 6
       
    splashies Win Full House, 6s and 2s 8690.00  9045.00
  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited February 2012
    def focus on "life" mate, i would rather have a happy wife, good job, lovely kids and play poker like a fish(which i do). poker is just something we would like to get good at, life is something we HAVE  to get good at,

  • waller02waller02 Member Posts: 9,119
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: The "Grim" tale of a low stakes player.:
    def focus on "life" mate, i would rather have a happy wife, good job, lovely kids and play poker like a fish(which i do). poker is just something we would like to get good at, life is something we HAVE  to get good at,
    Posted by pod1
    yeah def m8, still a nice bit of binkage would be nice.....is that too much to ask!! lol :)
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited February 2012
    mbn to be splashies eh! 2 outs, & every single other card in the deck he hates. 

    U play the hand perfect imo, but then again so does he lol.

    vul!
  • walesboywalesboy Member Posts: 993
    edited February 2012
    enjoying the thread mate
    feeling the pain at the moment also - down 4BI's in 2 sessions after 1 great session of 4.5BI's up!
    such is life at poker especially nl4. playing no different just this time they have it or get there.
    still, would be nice to have a hobby that doesn't kick us in the proverbials at times wouldn't it!!
    had a hand like your hand 3 today and did the same. sometimes you just can't help yourself.

    have a decent sleep, play with the kids (always puts things in perspective for me) and come back refreshed/focused and I'm sure you'll run good
    just PLEASE avoid any table I'm on (just in case!!)

    good luck
  • waller02waller02 Member Posts: 9,119
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: The "Grim" tale of a low stakes player.:
    enjoying the thread mate feeling the pain at the moment also - down 4BI's in 2 sessions after 1 great session of 4.5BI's up! such is life at poker especially nl4. playing no different just this time they have it or get there. still, would be nice to have a hobby that doesn't kick us in the proverbials at times wouldn't it!! had a hand like your hand 3 today and did the same. sometimes you just can't help yourself. have a decent sleep, play with the kids (always puts things in perspective for me) and come back refreshed/focused and I'm sure you'll run good just PLEASE avoid any table I'm on (just in case!!) good luck
    Posted by walesboy
    ty, so it's not just me then??? lol

    I'm having a rest from the cash tables tonight and gonna play dyms and maybe a couple of tourneys
  • waller02waller02 Member Posts: 9,119
    edited February 2012
    Last night I played mainly DYM's like I said. When I first started playing poker these were all I played, I have to be honest though I have rarely been above break even in them. I did enjoy playing them last night though so I will have a break from nl4 and see if my br can improve.

    I also played 2 mtt's, one of them was a timed one for Rich's thread competition. I am not a big fan of these timed tourneys personally but they seem quite popular so I guess it is another good addition by sky. I also played the mini bh, got quite deep took 1 head then lost a flip.

    So, it's on the with the dym's again tonight and also playing the orfordable deepstack s part of trev's forum comp. I do enjoy this tourney as it makes a refreshing change from 6 seaters, plus the banter ain't bad either. I may also play the mini open too.

    Won't be playing tomorrow night as going out bowling and for a meal to celebrate my birthday on monday....31, I am starting to feel old!

    Have a good weekend all!

    DYM £3.30: W7 L5
    DYM £2.25: W4 L3
    MTT: -£5.47

    Start br: £155.25
    Current br: £152.43
  • devonfish5devonfish5 Member Posts: 4,291
    edited February 2012
    hi Ryan,
    wish i was 31 again mate..lol

    how many tables are you playing atm?
    as this will make a diference.
    seems to me like you are mixing it up a bit,
    which imo can have an effect on your b/roll.
    as you are basically wining on one hand and giving it away with the other.

    take today;
    you have won £2.65 grinding dym,s
    only to give it away playing mtt
    making a session loss of -£2.82.
    so all that hard work playing dym,s not for nothing
    but for a loss.

    ok,so that,s today,
    tomorrow could be the other way around,.
    playing 19 dym,s
    especially if playing 2 or 3 tables
    is a good grind,
    so you want something to show for it
    even if it,s only a small profit,don,t you?

    anyway,that,s my thinking,
    and that,s how i look at it.
    (take me tonight,
    playing £1.15 and £2.25 dym,s...
    ran badly..i felt,
    lost last £2.25 game,all-in with ak called by a9,villian hit his 9.
    but...
    still managed a W
    won £1.55)
    not great i know,
    but if you can win something day after day,etc,
    you will find that b/roll does go up.

    obviously,there are plenty of other ways to win,
    i will admit that.
    you only need one good cash in an mtt
    and your b/roll can go through the roof,
    i know that Rancid had a good cash
    in his last challenge.
    you can take shots playing at higher level games,
    that can be successfull too.
    but it does come with a real risk,
    if you do lose it will hurt you for sure.

    you my friend will have to find your own way to wining,
    as have those before you and those yet to come!!!

    good luck
    devon


      

  • waller02waller02 Member Posts: 9,119
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: The "Grim" tale of a low stakes player.:
    hi Ryan, wish i was 31 again mate..lol how many tables are you playing atm? as this will make a diference. seems to me like you are mixing it up a bit, which imo can have an effect on your b/roll. as you are basically wining on one hand and giving it away with the other. take today; you have won £2.65 grinding dym,s only to give it away playing mtt making a session loss of -£2.82. so all that hard work playing dym,s not for nothing but for a loss. ok,so that,s today, tomorrow could be the other way around,. playing 19 dym,s especially if playing 2 or 3 tables is a good grind, so you want something to show for it even if it,s only a small profit,don,t you? anyway,that,s my thinking, and that,s how i look at it. (take me tonight, playing £1.15 and £2.25 dym,s... ran badly..i felt, lost last £2.25 game,all-in with ak called by a9,villian hit his 9. but... still managed a W won £1.55) not great i know, but if you can win something day after day,etc, you will find that b/roll does go up. obviously,there are plenty of other ways to win, i will admit that. you only need one good cash in an mtt and your b/roll can go through the roof, i know that Rancid had a good cash in his last challenge. you can take shots playing at higher level games, that can be successfull too. but it does come with a real risk, if you do lose it will hurt you for sure. you my friend will have to find your own way to wining, as have those before you and those yet to come!!! good luck devon   

    Hi devon, thanks for your post mate. I have been playing 3 tables on DYM and one tsble on mtt. I know it's not ideal to mix the 2 formats but I just can't resist playing the odd mtt and I am playing within my br so any losses aren't crippling.

    Feeling rather delicate today had a heavy weekend! Didn't play last night as I was out but below are my results from friday nights play, I guess these results echo what you are saying devon but tbh I can't just play dym's and nothing else without it driving me crazy!!

    DYM £3.30: W5 L6
    DYM £2.25: W5 L4
    Mtt: -£4.85

    Start br: £152.43
    Current br: £141.03
  • waller02waller02 Member Posts: 9,119
    edited February 2012
    At the moment the dyms are not going to plan but I am gonna play a few today and see what happens. Also gonna have one primo sat plus maybe play flops event 2 later.

    Hungover poker ftw!!!!
  • devonfish5devonfish5 Member Posts: 4,291
    edited February 2012
    hi mate,
    well i have spotted your leak for you.
    as you rightly say u r playing with-in b/roll
    but you are still losing.
    what happens though if you carry on going backwards...
    i,m not overly bothered,it,s your money mate.
    :-)
    devon
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