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DYM, The best way of playing and does it improve your mtt games.

cleaverjimcleaverjim Member Posts: 1,070
edited February 2012 in Poker Chat
Hi,Ive just started to play £5.50 dym and tbh finding it great fun BUT am i right in playing super tight the first 4 levels?.So far ive played 2 and won both by playing this way my philosophy is play AA,KK QQ first few levels then open up my range,Was wondering if this is the right or correct way of playing these sng games.

I also think it will help my mtt games by playing these dym any comments will be welcome,Ty

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  • WHOAMI196WHOAMI196 Member Posts: 1,170
    edited February 2012
    I am not the best mtt player, nor am i the worst . . . but playing dym IMO does not improve you'r mtt game. To win MTT you need to be making-moves, constant blind stealing, and very important to change gears, gaining momentum. DYM will make you play too tight, and rather going all out for the win, you might find you'r self min-cashing, or be blinded out before the cash. I have a personal hate towards DYMs so suppose i am biast.
  • GaryQQQGaryQQQ Member Posts: 6,804
    edited February 2012
    Your strategy for DYMs cannot be faulted, you're giving yourself a great chance of doing well with that foundation.

    As for the second part of your question; No. 

    DYM's and MTTs are like chalk and cheese, totally different strategies apply. In an MTT the optimal strategy is to play for the win. If 150 players enter an MTT and 20 get paid you should be aiming for 1st, not 20th. It's simple maths, one 1st place and 19 early bust outs from 20 tournaments is far worth more than say 12x 10th-20th place finishes and 8 early bust outs. DYM tactics are now incorrect, they might help you sneak frequent min-cashes, but that's a losing strategy in MTTs.

    I used to do well playing DYMs a couple of years ago, then I transitioned to tournaments. My game has evolveded greatly as a result, instead of adopting the survival approach needed to do well in DYMs I now how have a more ruthless 'killer instinct' style of play. Recently I tried a few micro DYMs for the first time in ages and struggled badly.

    There's nothing to stop you being good at both disiplines, many players are, but you'll need to be capable of switching between the different styles of play.
  • EvilPinguEvilPingu Member Posts: 3,462
    edited February 2012
    As a general rule, yes, tight is right in DYM's. Early on, you want to be playing premium hands. You won't go too far wrong just playing AA, KK, QQ early on, but it does also have it's disadvantages in that it's so predictable that regs who know this information will fold AK, AQ, JJ to a raise. without putting a chip in the pot.

    I would also consider playing anything where you can see a flop cheaply, hit the (effective) nuts and get paid off with it, both to balance your range and for implied odds of hitting a set and doubling up early. Set mining with small and middle pairs early on in position, and sometimes AXs for nut flush draws with position are worth considering seeing a flop in the early stages if it's cheap enough.

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    As for the second part - DYM's will improve how you play in Satellites.
  • FlyingDaggFlyingDagg Member Posts: 4,146
    edited February 2012

    Much as the others have said. But I will add that if you reach a sufficient chip stack where you can afford to sit out knowing you are guaranteed top3 do not be tempted to play even AA. Just fold everything. Let the others fight it out. I've seen players with a 6000 chipstack trying to get em all which is crazy in a DYM.

  • penguin7penguin7 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited February 2012
    DYMs can be harmful or fatal to your MTT game !
  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,947
    edited February 2012

    I play cash,dym and mtt

    they all require differant mindsets

    If you do not switch mindsets then playing various formats can harm your game

    play tight, simples - then I can exploit by opening lots )

    The most important aspect is reaching the bubble

     

    If you follow the, play tight route, this is fine – but you will have games where your just card dead, and this will happen more often than not – this is where you need to be on your game

    This is where the most experienced players make their money imo, surviving the bubble with no cards is a skill in itself



  • QuietmanQuietman Member Posts: 286
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: DYM, The best way of playing and does it improve your mtt games.:
    DYMs can be harmful or fatal to your MTT game !
    Posted by penguin7
    this 100%
  • DazlerDazler Member Posts: 3,970
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: DYM, The best way of playing and does it improve your mtt games.:
    Much as the others have said. But I will add that if you reach a sufficient chip stack where you can afford to sit out knowing you are guaranteed top3 do not be tempted to play even AA. Just fold everything. Let the others fight it out. I've seen players with a 6000 chipstack trying to get em all which is crazy in a DYM.
    Posted by FlyingDagg
    agree to an extent but there is no definate that you will cash if you are chip leader and you shouldnt be sitting out every hand unless the blinds are low and you have aggressive players on the table to do all the knocking out. If i have a premuim hand like pk As and i have the chance to knock a player out thats 1 less to worry about. If everyone plays tight in a dym its surprising how quickly the blinds get big and you end up having to shove with naff against more players and your chip lead dosnt mean squat.

    But there are times that yes folding pk As can help you cash depends on the feel and the way the other players are playing but not often. Someone has to be the one to knock out that 4th player and sometimes its you.
  • 12671267 Member Posts: 936
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: DYM, The best way of playing and does it improve your mtt games.:
    DYMs can be harmful or fatal to your MTT game !
    Posted by penguin7
    This !
  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,947
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: DYM, The best way of playing and does it improve your mtt games.:
    In Response to Re: DYM, The best way of playing and does it improve your mtt games. : This !
    Posted by 1267

    Swings and roundabouts, MTT sytel  can harm your DYM game

    I run both at the sametime and don't have a problem with working in seperate mindsets!
    Maybe I am a bit special :s

  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: DYM, The best way of playing and does it improve your mtt games.:
    In Response to Re: DYM, The best way of playing and does it improve your mtt games. : Swings and roundabouts, MTT sytel  can harm your DYM game I run both at the sametime and don't have a problem with working in seperate mindsets! Maybe I am a bit special :s
    Posted by rancid
    Yep totally agree, in fact for me playing MTT's is kind of a release where I can really loosen up and have some fun playing a more aggro style that wouldn't work at DYM. 
  • SlykllistSlykllist Member Posts: 2,888
    edited February 2012
    I've started playing £5.50 DYM's recently and don't find it affects my MTT game at all.

    I think your philosophy is spot on cleaverjim, although I do believe that reading the table and being able to identify where the opportunities are is important and can be very useful in the first few levels (also Sharkscope is massively useful) and this is very much a benefit to MTT play.

    You just have to understand the different requirements of both formats and adapt your play accordingly.
  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: DYM, The best way of playing and does it improve your mtt games.:
    DYMs can be harmful or fatal to your MTT game !
    Posted by penguin7
    This!
  • kb245kb245 Member Posts: 435
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: DYM, The best way of playing and does it improve your mtt games.:
    Much as the others have said. But I will add that if you reach a sufficient chip stack where you can afford to sit out knowing you are guaranteed top3 do not be tempted to play even AA. Just fold everything. Let the others fight it out. I've seen players with a 6000 chipstack trying to get em all which is crazy in a DYM.
    Posted by FlyingDagg
    very true!!
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