ofc it shud be, but he simply is not shoving any 2 cards. I have looked at the hand history leading up to this hand he has not had an accident, he's been quite content to fold down this low, waiting for a spot like this.
So tilting how can you misread his range so badly?
Is it just a co-incidence that out of the 220 "any 2" cobos, he had 2 Queens?
insta fold, mad moo has too big of a stack to call with 55, fwiw i am not a tourney specialist, the way i look at is, let the short stacks knock each other out, no need to risk a chunk of your stack here, you can find better spots than this.
This is a fold against Madmoo because her range doesnt include enough hands you beat
There is no way she reships pocket 4s for example
Just give YG a free entry to next weeks for £5.50, he got totally owned last night by me in the first one, he needs more practice
Also agree that if u get a table of regs in the dtd its redic and your calling range is just so narrow! There was an example last night where i had 13bbs on the cut off, and min raised with suited connectors. (r/f as all players are passive) i get min 3 otb by POKERTREV who also has 13bb. although if it fold rounds im getting 4/1 on my money, i KNOW hes got aces lol. Luckily, someone else before me got it in first, with KK, and yes trev showed AA.
... I really don't see a need to put 1/4 of your stack in the middle against the reshoving range of madmoo, the best we hope for is AK - AJ, slim possibility that madmoo is shoving 22-44.
I think its a clear fold. FWIW its almost certainly a snap call in a BH though.
Shover is in the middle. I think he shoves alot tighter than that, but moobs convinced me to widen it abit. Rusty, thanx for posting, what kinda hands would you say you are shoving in that position normally? Is it about right? equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 41.823% 40.90% 00.92% 131706581724 2965528976.00 { 88+, ATs+, KQs, ATo+, KQo } Hand 1: 27.475% 26.49% 00.99% 85286347104 3184574216.00 { 22+, A2s+, K8s+, Q9s+, JTs, A2o+, K9o+, QTo+, JTo } Hand 2: 30.702% 30.51% 00.19% 98253145512 610386116.00 { 55 } Posted by DOHHHHHHH
Hi Dohhh. Yes, all these hands i guess in range for open button shove v blinds with me just less than 6 bb's, especially now v madmoo who is pretty short too, but still has +12 bb and can just about hang on to push rather than call off. As it stands I think the hand played out pretty standard once madmoo shows her strength with you still to act behind.
In Response to Re: MTT, extremely standard fold, right? : Hi Dohhh. Yes, all these hands i guess in range for open button shove v blinds with me just less than 6 bb's, especially now v madmoo who is pretty short too, but still has +12 bb and can just about hang on to push rather than call off. As it stands I think the hand played out pretty standard once madmoo shows her strength with you still to act behind. Posted by rusty762
But the range is a bit tighter than what i agreed in previous post if Madmoo is more than chipped up......ie hand range 0 - 88+ A10+ QJ, KQ etc.
My read on madmoo, was fairly solid and wasn't gonna call off light rag ace etc (unlike Uzilover ,nicely stacked, gambling, , calling off pushes light)
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Calling is bad imo.
either super tight players or soooooooooo wide
DTD is fantastic value )
40-45% is a tad optismistic
30-35% is about right
still calling with your stack in this MTT
essentially ignoring the first shove, and just ranging the iso shove
even if btns range is atc it will play ok v 55.
I prob fold and start opening every pot I can
This is a fold against Madmoo because her range doesnt include enough hands you beat
There is no way she reships pocket 4s for example
Just give YG a free entry to next weeks for £5.50, he got totally owned last night by me in the first one, he needs more practice
Also agree that if u get a table of regs in the dtd its redic and your calling range is just so narrow! There was an example last night where i had 13bbs on the cut off, and min raised with suited connectors. (r/f as all players are passive) i get min 3 otb by POKERTREV who also has 13bb. although if it fold rounds im getting 4/1 on my money, i KNOW hes got aces lol. Luckily, someone else before me got it in first, with KK, and yes trev showed AA.
I think its a clear fold. FWIW its almost certainly a snap call in a BH though.
Yes, all these hands i guess in range for open button shove v blinds with me just less than 6 bb's, especially now v madmoo who is pretty short too, but still has +12 bb and can just about hang on to push rather than call off.
As it stands I think the hand played out pretty standard once madmoo shows her strength with you still to act behind.
My read on madmoo, was fairly solid and wasn't gonna call off light rag ace etc (unlike Uzilover ,nicely stacked, gambling, , calling off pushes light)
Shorty had QQ, which is obv @ the top of his range, moo had AJ, which I'd guess is near the bottom of hers.
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