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I'm confused

VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,524
edited March 2012 in Poker Chat
Had this moved to Area 51 for some reason.
I wasn't complaing just making an observation!

"Has anyone else noticed a change on the tables tonight?
I've been playing DYM's most of the evening and i am convinced the RNG has been changed.
Hardly saw any flops dealt tonite and i didn't see the usual glut of Houses,Straights,Flushes etc."
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  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited March 2012
    must admit been card dead most of the night, apart from aa vkk and set over set. but thats over 4 tables and 4 hrs.
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  • 67Bhoys67Bhoys Member Posts: 2,553
    edited March 2012
    AABEATSKK Small blind  150.00 150.00 2405.00
    67Bhoys Big blind  300.00 450.00 3935.00
     Your hole cards
    • 10
    • Q
    		   
    killerlee Call  300.00 750.00 3440.00
    wynne1938 Fold     
    Greb Raise  700.00 1450.00 5230.00
    d23b Fold     
    AABEATSKK Fold     
    67Bhoys All-in  3935.00 5385.00 0.00
    killerlee Fold     
    Greb Call  3535.00 8920.00 1695.00
    67Bhoys Show
    • 10
    • Q
    		   
    Greb Show
    • 4
    • 4
    		   
    Flop
      
    • K
    • 9
    • J
    		   
    Turn
      
    • 4
    		   
    River
      
    • 9
    		   
    Greb Win Full House, 4s and 9s 8920.00  10615.00
    Next

    Can't say I noticed
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  • TommyDTommyD Member Posts: 4,389
    edited March 2012
    I moved the original one.  Yes I am a Mod now.

    I know you weren't complaining, but take a look at what you wrote.  You are putting the reason for not seeing many big hands down to a change tp the software of the RNG.  Do you really believe this?  It seems nonsensical to me, like walking down the road for twenty minutes, noticing you haven't seen any red cars drive by and then concluding that companies must have stopped producing red cars.  It just happens sometimes, funny runs happen.

    I stand by the move, that thread was more than Area 51 worthy and adds nothing to the General Poker Chat forum.
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  • POKERTREVPOKERTREV Member Posts: 9,607
    edited March 2012
    In Response to I'm confused:
    Had this moved to Area 51 for some reason. I wasn't complaing just making an observation! "Has anyone else noticed a change on the tables tonight? I've been playing DYM's most of the evening and i am convinced the RNG has been changed. Hardly saw any flops dealt tonite and i didn't see the usual glut of Houses,Straights,Flushes etc."
    Posted by VespaPX
    As soon as you question Sky's RNG it's gonna get moved.

    It's less likely to be the RNG and more likely to be variance. Last night/Last week you were hitting them, Tonight and tomorrow you may not.

    Good Luck
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  • TommyDTommyD Member Posts: 4,389
    edited March 2012
    In Response to Re: I'm confused:
    In Response to I'm confused : As soon as you question Sky's RNG it's gonna get moved.It's less likely to be the RNG and more likely to be variance. Last night/Last week you were hitting them, Tonight and tomorrow you may not. Good Luck
    Posted by POKERTREV
    It wasn't moved because the RNG was questioned, it was moved because the thread was Area 51 worthy.

    Also I don't know why this has been reposted, I was monitoring the original thread and would have given a full and frank reply there if asked and given a little more time to reply.  I'll leave this here in GPC for a little while so everyone can be happy there is no Illuminati wearing their cloaks and cowls, living in their dark tower ready to swoop at any post with the letters RNG in it, then when we're all happy this is off to Area 51 and the original will be deleted.

    If anyone disagrees with this please PM me or post here and I'll be happy to discuss this with you.
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  • GELDYGELDY Member Posts: 5,203
    edited March 2012
    On the contrary - would seem to be ideal area 51 material
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  • jonjo75jonjo75 Member Posts: 999
    edited March 2012
    In Response to I'm confused:
    Had this moved to Area 51 for some reason. I wasn't complaing just making an observation! "Has anyone else noticed a change on the tables tonight? I've been playing DYM's most of the evening and i am convinced the RNG has been changed. Hardly saw any flops dealt tonite and i didn't see the usual glut of Houses,Straights,Flushes etc."
    Posted by VespaPX
    Quite possibly the most worthy thread to go in area 51,
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  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,524
    edited March 2012
    Thanks for the replies guys.
    Just seemed odd last night that all and other people mentioned it in the chat boxes on the tables i was playing.
    Hope the variance doesn't last too long for me.
    Cheers
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  • igimcigimc Member Posts: 625
    edited March 2012
    In Response to Re: I'm confused:
    In Response to Re: I'm confused : It wasn't moved because the RNG was questioned, it was moved because the thread was Area 51 worthy. Also I don't know why this has been reposted, I was monitoring the original thread and would have given a full and frank reply there if asked and given a little more time to reply.  I'll leave this here in GPC for a little while so everyone can be happy there is no Illuminati wearing their cloaks and cowls, living in their dark tower ready to swoop at any post with the letters RNG in it, then when we're all happy this is off to Area 51 and the original will be deleted. If anyone disagrees with this please PM me or post here and I'll be happy to discuss this with you.
    Posted by TommyD
    And it was area 51 worthy because the RNG was questioned.
    jeez you should be a politician.call a spade a spade.
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  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,524
    edited March 2012
    In Response to Re: I'm confused:
    In Response to I'm confused : As soon as you question Sky's RNG it's gonna get moved. It's less likely to be the RNG and more likely to be variance. Last night/Last week you were hitting them, Tonight and tomorrow you may not. Good Luck
    Posted by POKERTREV
    It wasn't just me Trev.
    I've never seen so many people fold pre-flop.
    It was whoever bet first won the blinds - really weird.
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  • JasonKing9JasonKing9 Member Posts: 16
    edited March 2012
    I think it should go back to the area 51 section so all them idiots can discuss this between each other.
    I cant speak for anyone else but I think most people in this section might not want such a silly post like this in the general section.
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,776
    edited March 2012
    In Response to Re: I'm confused:
    Thanks for the replies guys. Just seemed odd last night that all and other people mentioned it in the chat boxes on the tables i was playing. Hope the variance doesn't last too long for me. Cheers
    Posted by VespaPX
    I hope you don't think I am being pedantic, Mr Vespa, but I have to tell you that variance is permanent, it lasts forever.

    I think you mean negative variance, but you must embrace it, because she has a twin sister - positive variance. 

    Love one, love the other......

    And again, I'm sorry to say this, but variance of both varieties is part of poker, whether it be Online, or Live. We can hardly blame variance on the RNG, it happens in Live Poker, too!

    Who do we give credit to when we run well? Ourselves, presumably, rather than the very same RNG which we blame when we run bad?

    I feel a little for TommyD here, he has done his best to handle it well.

    But it really is not right that every time a player has a bad run, it is suddenly the fault of Sky Poker, or the RNG, is it? How that work?

    I hope the twin sister arrives very shortly. She's perfectly lovely, you know.     

     
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  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,524
    edited March 2012
    In Response to Re: I'm confused:
    In Response to Re: I'm confused : I hope you don't think I am being pedantic, Mr Vespa, but I have to tell you that variance is permanent, it lasts forever. I think you mean negative variance, but you must embrace it, because she has a twin sister - positive variance.  Love one, love the other...... And again, I'm sorry to say this, but variance of both varieties is part of poker, whether it be Online, or Live. We can hardly blame variance on the RNG, it happens in Live Poker, too! Who do we give credit to when we run well? Ourselves, presumably, rather than the very same RNG which we blame when we run bad? I feel a little for TommyD here, he has done his best to handle it well. But it really is not right that every time a player has a bad run, it is suddenly the fault of Sky Poker, or the RNG, is it? How that work? I hope the twin sister arrives very shortly. She's perfectly lovely, you know.    
    Posted by Tikay10
    Cheers Tikay,
    I understand the ups and downs of variance.
    I was merely making a comment on something that others had noticed on the tables as well.
    In no way was i intimating there was anything dodgy going on just an observation.
    I appreciate the feedback from Tommy and others , must be a nightmare being a MOD on here.
    End of thread - please move or delete as you deem fit.
    Thanks again
    Mick
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  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,524
    edited March 2012
    In Response to Re: I'm confused:
    I think it should go back to the area 51 section so all them idiots can discuss this between each other. I cant speak for anyone else but I think most people in this section might not want such a silly post like this in the general section.
    Posted by JasonKing9
    If you dont like it dont read it!
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,776
    edited March 2012

    Thanks Mick.

    People imagine they see the strangest things when they are on a downswing!
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  • TommyDTommyD Member Posts: 4,389
    edited March 2012
    In Response to Re: I'm confused:
    In Response to Re: I'm confused : And it was area 51 worthy because the RNG was questioned. jeez you should be a politician.call a spade a spade.
    Posted by igimc
    I think I've got a decent post history calling a spade a spade.  There's a subtle difference that is being missed.  I do not and will not move a thread to Area 51 just because it contains doubt about the RNG.  There was an implication that posts are scanned to see if they contain this and are mindlessly moved.  That is not the case for me.

    If someone has a rational well reasoned argument that contains questioning the RNG then from where I sit it stays in GPC.  In my opinion this thread doesn't meet that criteria.
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  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,524
    edited March 2012
    In Response to Re: I'm confused:
    Thanks Mick. People imagine they see the strangest things when they are on a downswing!
    Posted by Tikay10
    Only a minor blip 
    I'll be back :-)
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  • EyemanEyeman Member Posts: 1,039
    edited March 2012
    In Response to Re: I'm confused:
    In Response to Re: I'm confused : I hope you don't think I am being pedantic, Mr Vespa, but I have to tell you that variance is permanent, it lasts forever. I think you mean negative variance, but you must embrace it, because she has a twin sister - positive variance.  Love one, love the other...... And again, I'm sorry to say this, but variance of both varieties is part of poker, whether it be Online, or Live. We can hardly blame variance on the RNG, it happens in Live Poker, too! Who do we give credit to when we run well? Ourselves, presumably, rather than the very same RNG which we blame when we run bad? I feel a little for TommyD here, he has done his best to handle it well. But it really is not right that every time a player has a bad run, it is suddenly the fault of Sky Poker, or the RNG, is it? How that work? I hope the twin sister arrives very shortly. She's perfectly lovely, you know.    
    Posted by Tikay10
    I tried this once....their dad came round and beat me up.
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  • SolarCarroSolarCarro Member Posts: 2,273
    edited March 2012
    From the Forum Guidelines posted in Sticky section.....

    Which board to post on?

    Knowing which board a particular post belongs on should be simple enough. General Poker Chat is general chat about poker. I know, it’s really that simple. If something is general chat but with no poker, it will find itself moved to another, more relevant part of the Community. That’s not to say it is ‘relegated’, it’s just moved to a section where  you’ll probably get more engagement anyway.

    As it states, when we move posts we are not in any way "relegating" them, we are just housekeeping the forum to keep relevant posts in the right places. Area51 is no less important than GPC but I agree with ModTommy that anything that highlights trends, strange occurences etc is an Area51 topic, that board is meant for the "observations"

    ModSolar

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  • jonjo75jonjo75 Member Posts: 999
    edited March 2012
    In Response to Re: I'm confused:
    In Response to Re: I'm confused : Cheers Tikay, I understand the ups and downs of variance. I was merely making a comment on something that others had noticed on the tables as well. In no way was i intimating there was anything dodgy going on just an observation. I appreciate the feedback from Tommy and others , must be a nightmare being a MOD on here. End of thread - please move or delete as you deem fit. Thanks again Mick
    Posted by VespaPX
     
    I think saying" i am convinced the RNG has been changed" is doing just that.
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