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20NL HU Line Check
grantorino
Member Posts: 4,710
Dont play much HU so just a quick line check
No big pots so far, neither of us has been that aggro. Hes 3bet once or twice I folded. Only even remotely interesting hand has been where he called a flop c/r and turn barrell on a blank with 2nd pair on flop that picked up flushdraw on turn, river checked thru on a blank, I showed a missed gutshot
Obviously raising flop or betting turn may be options here, dont think I like raising flop though. Anyone fold river?
| grantorino | Small blind | £0.10 | £0.10 | £22.60 | |
| V | Big blind | £0.20 | £0.30 | £19.90 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| grantorino | Raise | £0.50 | £0.80 | £22.10 | |
| V | Raise | £1.80 | £2.60 | £18.10 | |
| grantorino | Call | £1.40 | £4.00 | £20.70 | |
| Flop | |||||
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| V | Bet | £2.80 | £6.80 | £15.30 | |
| grantorino | Call | £2.80 | £9.60 | £17.90 | |
| Turn | |||||
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| V | Check | ||||
| grantorino | Check | ||||
| River | |||||
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| V | All-in | £15.30 | £24.90 | £0.00 | |
| grantorino | Call | £15.30 | |||
Comments
Vs thinking good player i re-raise flop, so many draws he may think you can have and it looks kinda bluffy, and might spa-zz with a tone of junk hands, c/c down the streets overall v weak players is best, i doubt he checks a lot of strong hand on the turn, looks like complete air here imo so checking is prob best, and easy snap call on the river for me, he prob has quad Aces seeing that you are showing this here though lol
Not loving the river call as played bit of a sigh one, but i cant fold a flush. I would be most worried about AJ tho. He can also have AK/AQ i suppose which you can beat.
I would bet the turn and try to get it in there tbh but thats my style of play. If he has 1 high club and a pair he gets it in, or 2 pair. both possible.
Im not a hu cash expert by any means but the overbet on the end is worrying. I wouldnt rule out a pure bluff, but its very unlikely imo. I still call tho... obv
The more I look at it I agree his line looks like air on river, think hes betting 2p+ on that turn nearly 100%, he prob shows up with AQ,AK sometimes as well
call river
rancid - reasons why betting turn />checking
just interested in your reasoning
since neither of you have been aggro flatting flop is fine imo, if you raise you prob turn your hand a little face up, think its safe to say villian isn't going to be 3betting/then cbetting light too often if he hasnt been 3betting you much as you say.
On turn when he checks, it appears to be either a give up or a pot control, I think we prob need to value bet smallish, he can have some A's in his hand and for a little bit of protection if he has a redraw.
On river, I'd be a little suprised at the shove, I think you could narrow his range to 1010, JJ, QQ, KK, AK, AQ and possibly AJ/KQ. Might even take 1010 out of his 3 bet range. I can't see a passive player making such a big bluff with nothing. From your description, I can't see any reason for you to believe he has complete air, unless he realised you think he is passive and is using this.
Really wouldn't be suprised to see I'm totally wrong and he shows 89o for the missed oesd haha.
Forgot to add that I think I would fold.
The c-bet on the flop doesn't narrow his range much at all and the check on the turn can't tell you anything. The shove on the river would be a terrible bet as a bluff, though, since you've shown little fear of the flop and the Ace pairing the river makes it unlikely that he hit the Ace on the turn, so it's tough to rep it... Not to say that he hasn't made the shove as a bluff, since I don't know how good he is, but a moderately-good player is usually making this shove hoping to get maximum value from a Jack or Ten.
The problem is that HU is all about meta-game. I don't know much about your opponent or his image of you. If I was your opponent, I'd never shove any hand on the river so it's hard to know why he's done it. If I was you, I'd raise the flop... but without any knowledge of either of you it's impossible to say. Different opponents require different analysis and that's never more true than in heads-up play.
"hes 3 bet once or twice, I folded"
stated on OP
If I've played a guy heads up for an hour or two and hes only 3 bet me 1 or 2 times then I think you can say his 3 bet range is narrow. Of course OP doesn't suggest how big his sample may be, however early indications would appear villian is not 3 betting wide. So 1010 may not be in his range.
The fact that there's only been one noteworthy hand doesn't suggest that there have been a great many hands played between the two and having seen your opponent fold to your 3-bets, apparently every time, you would surely open up your 3-betting range. Considering this player has apparently 3-bet on a couple of ocassions before, are we really going to assume that they've always had JJ or better?
That's not to say that he's always going to 3-bet TT or better - he might feel there are better ways to get value from them - but I don't think we can say that TT isn't in his range for making the 3-bet.
Borin, he shouldnt have a 100% 3betting range imo, from what I've seen of him its unlikely. Would think its wider than JJ+ and Ak though and may well include bluffs
raising flop seems meh to me, as I think hes likely to fold most worse hand or continue with better or tonnes of outs. Maybe he 3bets stuff like AQ enough though
turn I dont think he has many hands will call off 2streets, expect him to bet 2p+ nearly all the time here (is this reasonable?) The thing I dont like most about checking the turn is possibility of action killer on river
villain showed air, something like 56o. Thanks for replies, I think I suck at hu so any advice is appreciated
Heads-up is all about aggression but that doesn't mean there's a right way to do it. I might be willing to play 23o, out of position but it's all about meta-game and getting in your opponent's head. There's no hard and fast advice, just don't give your opponent too much credit for having strong hands just because he makes strong bets.