Satellite - Exit Shove - Better Than Previous Ones?

Lambert180

Again forget the result... talk about running bad

Table was REALLY aggro, so no joke virtually every single pot had been raised by the time it got to me, and I couldn't find a single good hand, or an unopened spot to stick it in, so was letting myself get alot lower as people suggested. This was the first unopened spot for ages and I figure my cards are probably live... is this a better spot that the likes of my exit shoves I've been posting recently?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
9se7enTr3y	Small blind		150.00	150.00	3515.00
wizzbanger	Big blind		300.00	450.00	6240.00
	Your hole cards	9 J
DAIBOOT	Fold
bungle72	Fold
Lambert180	All-in		917.50	1367.50	0.00
NONRUNNER	Fold
9se7enTr3y	Fold
wizzbanger	Call		617.50	1985.00	5622.50
wizzbanger	Show	A A
Lambert180	Show	9 J
Flop
		8 6 5
Turn
		3
River
		2
wizzbanger	Win	Pair of Aces	1985.00		7607.50

AMYBR

super aggro table and we are shoving 3bbs with J9off?

Tempting pos wise, but think is a pass

Dudeskin8

You don't mention how many left, how many get seats etc but in general I think this is fine.

Lambert180

Even with 3BBs and its unopened, you can still find a fold? Jeez I need to get my head round this satellite lark!

Lambert180

In Response to Re: Satellite - Exit Shove - Better Than Previous Ones?:

You don't mention how many left, how many get seats etc but in general I think this is fine.
Posted by Dudeskin8

12 left, so down to 2 tables of 6. There are 5 seats going and 6th gets £44. so still a while to go yet.

Dudeskin8

Yep in that case snap shove.

You're not silly though and realise getting this short means you need to get VERY lucky, so in future try to shove earlier, you mention not finding spots but blinding down to 3bbs is VERY bad and I'm sure you could have shoved at some stage earlier even with ATC.

Lambert180

Well people keep telling me I can let myself go lower before shoving, especially in a satellites and prior to this people we're raising annoying big, people kept making it like 3x so I basically had zero FE and junk hands.

AMYBR

if your shoving a 10 bb stack blind in LP in unentered pots consistently your not doing a lot wrong IMO..........

Alternative is no different.

(should see the abuse i get :P)

Lambert180

The problem was, there were literally no unopened pots, so where should I be rejamming. Can I still do that with ATC with 10BB?

Dudeskin8

The 22 hand you had 13bb so can go down to say 8-9 and still be safe but 3bb is a whole new ball game as now even when you find ya Aces and double up you're still in big trouble and are far from safety 15-20bb range.

I also appreciate the crazy structure these things have where late on the average stack is 5bbs or something similar so having 9 is not important but at this stage when a guy in BB has 20 and small has 11 the average must be higher than 6-7.

On the other hand if it's as aggro as you say just sit and wait for everyone else to bust lol

DOHHHHHHH

I think you've made worse mistakes in this sat than shoving this spot.....

Show some hands from the last 6/7 orbits, you can't get this shallow without a collision........

Lambert180

Dohhhhhh I really felt trapped in this one not being able to find spots. If you're up for it, I could show you some of the hands from previous orbits over  MSN or something and you could let me know if you think there were any spots to jam? As I said recently, I really need to work on my satellite strategy. The only thing I potentially could have done was 3bet jam with complete junk in LP when I had more like 8-10BBs

With regard to the worse mistakes, it was the TT v JJ that took my stack down to 1.9k when blinds were 100/200, then very shortly after they were 150/300 and it went rapidly downhill from there. I had one chance to double up whe n I got it all-in pre AQ v AT and the board double paired for a split

simonnatur

imo you MUST shove this hand. When called youre often gonna have a ton of equity against Ax hands and you absolutely cant wait for blinds to come round again

simonnatur

btw even in this worst case scenario he still has 16% equity in the hand

grantorino

nh

profman15

In Response to Satellite - Exit Shove - Better Than Previous Ones?:

Again forget the result... talk about running bad Table was REALLY aggro, so no joke virtually every single pot had been raised by the time it got to me, and I couldn't find a single good hand, or an unopened spot to stick it in, so was letting myself get alot lower as people suggested. This was the first unopened spot for ages and I figure my cards are probably live... is this a better spot that the likes of my exit shoves I've been posting recently? Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance 9se7enTr3y Small blind   150.00 150.00 3515.00 wizzbanger Big blind   300.00 450.00 6240.00   Your hole cards 9 J       DAIBOOT Fold         bungle72 Fold         Lambert180 All-in   917.50 1367.50 0.00 NONRUNNER Fold         9se7enTr3y Fold         wizzbanger Call   617.50 1985.00 5622.50 wizzbanger Show A A       Lambert180 Show 9 J       Flop     8 6 5       Turn     3       River     2       wizzbanger Win Pair of Aces 1985.00   7607.50
Posted by Lambert180

Hi Lambert

 Your m=2 (harrington) and looking at the other stack sizes you seem a way from the bubble or you may have left it with just a couple to get knocked out or so. However, you've only a couple more hds before you're in the blinds and this is probably as good as you're going to get.
I'd have done the same though thats not saying much! All the best...

DrRunGood

with 3 bb you going to get called with something and most would beat your hand espec if you sayin it an aggro table obv gutted it aces but if it wasnt it would have been some other hand that just beat you slightly your just b4 button so you got bout 3 hands to find a better hand than j9 off