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Can i fold here or do i call re raise?

davelufcdavelufc Member Posts: 1,374
edited March 2012 in The Poker Clinic
Not been on the table long. Insta fold?
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
naffycat Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £12.19
jaad10 Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £12.58
 Your hole cards
  • K
  • K
   
TheRat1 Fold     
GRANTY112 Call  £0.10 £0.25 £5.83
davelufc Raise  £0.40 £0.65 £6.97
dogstail28 Fold     
naffycat Call  £0.35 £1.00 £11.84
jaad10 Call  £0.30 £1.30 £12.28
GRANTY112 Call  £0.30 £1.60 £5.53
Flop
  
  • A
  • 2
  • J
   
naffycat Check     
jaad10 Check     
GRANTY112 Check     
davelufc Bet  £1.20 £2.80 £5.77
naffycat Raise  £5.20 £8.00 £6.64
jaad10 Fold     
GRANTY112 Fold     
davelufc  ??? 

Comments

  • BorinLonerBorinLoner Member Posts: 3,863
    edited March 2012
    To be honest, I probably wouldn't bet on the flop at all. There are so many Aces in their pre-flop calling ranges and if they're calling pre-flop with an Ace, they're not going to give it up on the flop. By betting the flop into three players you're turning your KK into a bluff, representing the Ace. Unfortunately you're representing a hand that at least one of your opponents is very likely to have.

    Definitely fold now.
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited March 2012
    In Response to Re: Can i fold here or do i call re raise?:
    To be honest, I probably wouldn't bet on the flop at all. There are so many Aces in their pre-flop calling ranges and if they're calling pre-flop with an Ace, they're not going to give it up on the flop. By betting the flop into three players you're turning your KK into a bluff, representing the Ace. Unfortunately you're representing a hand that at least one of your opponents is very likely to have. Definitely fold now.
    Posted by BorinLoner
    +1
  • DrRunGoodDrRunGood Member Posts: 436
    edited March 2012
    this is the prob i have with small stakes too many callers and even with a hand like kk a flop like that chances are your beat
    i would fold without thinking unless you have good read on villian as a bluffer
    i agree with the bet on flop why wouldnt u raise on flop but i think you dont understand why your raising your askin the question has any1 got an ace if some1 calls you can put them on a weak ace and you could with pressure push them off it if u want to take risk
    but when they re raise like that its a fold and move on im afraid good hand hard to fold but why continue with a pot that ur more than aware that ur oponent has you crushed and will not be coming out the hand
  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited March 2012
    Heads up you can c-bet but because it's 4-way 100% has to be a check.

    Very easy snap fold now. 
  • thebil123thebil123 Member Posts: 99
    edited March 2012
    Some1's gotta have an ACE=check fold for me
  • davelufcdavelufc Member Posts: 1,374
    edited March 2012
    Yep, thought i was beat with the A, never know for sure!!!!
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    naffycat Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £12.19
    jaad10 Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £12.58
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • K
         
    TheRat1 Fold     
    GRANTY112 Call  £0.10 £0.25 £5.83
    davelufc Raise  £0.40 £0.65 £6.97
    dogstail28 Fold     
    naffycat Call  £0.35 £1.00 £11.84
    jaad10 Call  £0.30 £1.30 £12.28
    GRANTY112 Call  £0.30 £1.60 £5.53
    Flop
       
    • A
    • 2
    • J
         
    naffycat Check     
    jaad10 Check     
    GRANTY112 Check     
    davelufc Bet  £1.20 £2.80 £5.77
    naffycat Raise  £5.20 £8.00 £6.64
    jaad10 Fold     
    GRANTY112 Fold     
    davelufc Fold     
    naffycat Muck     
    naffycat Win  £3.70  £10.34
    naffycat Return  £4.00 £0.30 £14.34
  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited March 2012
    check bcak flop, fold now
  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited March 2012
    don't mind the c bet, can get value from draws/worse very easily
    + when c/r comes - this could easily be a draw

    get em in, raise size seems a bit big so..........

    could be wrong but hey - it could equally be AJ/A2

    blah game sometimes, does oppo really check wet flop with an ace blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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