Rake on a split pot

FCHD

I've just played a cash pot at 2p/4p, started off with a fiver, split the pot with a straight and still ended up 20p down on the hand due to 41p rake being taken on the hand.

Surely this can't be right, if you have a winning hand (even only a shared win), you shouldn't end up out of pocket on the hand?

EvilPingu

In Response to Rake on a split pot:

I've just played a cash pot at 2p/4p, started off with a fiver, split the pot with a straight and still ended up 20p down on the hand due to 41p rake being taken on the hand. Surely this can't be right, if you have a winning hand (even only a shared win), you shouldn't end up out of pocket on the hand?
Posted by FCHD

Agree the rake @ 4NL is awful, although can still be beaten because of the low standard at that level (not saying that makes it right though). 

If you want unbeatable rake, try playing micro stakes PLO8 cash on here, where something like 60% of pots are split (half to the winning high hand and half to the winning low where a low hand exists), with 7.5% rake @ 4PLO8. I wouldn't be surprised if you lost money even if you were dealt AA23ds every hand and got all the money in pre-flop because of the rake...

Never understood why smaller games get raked more - Micro stakes cash pay 7.5% rake instead of 5%, low level DYM rake is 12.5% - 20% instead of 10%, and the BH tournaments are 15% rake at lower levels instead of 10%. No reason for it not to be reduced to bring it in line with the higher stakes games of the same type IMO.

Rake on split pots is understandable - If someone goes all in with broadway on board and no flushes out there, despite knowing the extra money they just put in the pot is going to be raked, then they deserve to lose a couple of quid in rake IMO, just for not using any common sense whatsoever.

FCHD

In Response to Re: Rake on a split pot:

Rake on split pots is understandable - If someone goes all in with broadway on board and no flushes out there, despite knowing the extra money they just put in the pot is going to be raked, then they deserve to lose a couple of quid in rake IMO, just for not using any common sense whatsoever.
Posted by EvilPingu

Maybe, but this was on something like a 10-5-Q-4-K board with both of is holding A-J

Lambert180

If you don't wanna pay rake on the pot you win/split, then fold

Otherwise, you're paying for the card room (Sky) to run.

1267

In Response to Re: Rake on a split pot:

In Response to Rake on a split pot : Agree the rake @ 4NL is awful, although can still be beaten because of the low standard at that level (not saying that makes it right though).  If you want unbeatable rake, try playing micro stakes PLO8 cash on here, where something like 60% of pots are split (half to the winning high hand and half to the winning low where a low hand exists), with 7.5% rake @ 4PLO8. I wouldn't be surprised if you lost money even if you were dealt AA23ds every hand and got all the money in pre-flop because of the rake... Never understood why smaller games get raked more - Micro stakes cash pay 7.5% rake instead of 5%, low level DYM rake is 12.5% - 20% instead of 10%, and the BH tournaments are 15% rake at lower levels instead of 10%. No reason for it not to be reduced to bring it in line with the higher stakes games of the same type IMO. Rake on split pots is understandable - If someone goes all in with broadway on board and no flushes out there, despite knowing the extra money they just put in the pot is going to be raked, then they deserve to lose a couple of quid in rake IMO, just for not using any common sense whatsoever.
Posted by EvilPingu

Because Sky are a business, and know if players don't like this, more often than not they will just move up to higher stakes, rather than choose not to play !