Okay so I'm a winning poker player and in the year and a bit that I've been playing online poker I've made just over £500...BUT i feel that one of my biggest leaks is cash. I'm more of a STT and MTT player than a cash player and I know this but occasionaly I will get bored of playing STTs and MTTs and get the urge to play cash. When I'm in the right frame of mind I do alright in cash but more often than not I lose money. If I didn't play cash my I know my winnings would be more than £500. Wish there was an option for Sky Poker to block my access to cash games... lol, but seriously I'm just looking for advice on what to do when I get the urge to play cash as I know I'm a fish in this format! Any advice would be appreciated.
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As you said you do ok at them now and again but prob lose overall and thats because maybe you do like i do at times and stay too long when your winning, then some players come along who are super loose and shove with any 2 and get lucky ending your winning streak and you leaving the table with nothing.
Set an amount you want to win on a cash table for example if you play 2/4p and you buy in for 2.60 and your up 8 pounds, leave. Or if you buy in for 4 pounds and make 12 leave. If you continuasly keep buying in because you have lost a race for instance, set your self the max number of buy ins for that table and how much you are prepared to lose, for instance i normaly do a max of 2-3 buy ins to combat the varience and if it isnt working for me on that table and im not feeling it! move to another table.
you have to be prepared to rebuy in cash unlike stt and mtts. If you can multi table its more profitable in the long run also. And be prepared for chasers a lot more in cash than stt and mtts. Id probably stick with one or the other so you can set your mind for that format and then when your ready switch back.
Check out dohhs thread on here as its very informative for cash play so i heard.
IMO if you are great @ one, is very hard to master other.
So tempting to delve into cash with what we perceive as winning game. But we lack the hand to hand dicipline and patience.
Tournament, we are driving towards something, our goal is finite.
Cash, we need a much deeper understanding of the game.
If your a winning Tplayer, heck play to your strengths. I think I'm in the best 2% in world lol, but I still know I'm not good enough to play cash
in other words play to your strengths. If you know your bleeding in cash hold off.
Remember that you're at least 100bb deep (If you're sitting with a full stack and topping up when you drop below 100bb, that is), so we're playing a totally different range of hands to tournaments. Hands like Ax suited become more playable the deeper you are, as you're more likely to stack someone by coolering them with nut flush v weaker flush/straight/set. Whereas in a tournament, you probably fold A6s UTG with 20bb, in a cash game when you're sat several hundred bb's deep, idk about other cash players but I'm more than happy with raising A6s UTG if I'm not worried about being 3-bet out of the pot.
Equally, other hands become "worse" as you get deeper, things like KT, A8o, while both good hands to shove 10bb's on the button unopened in a tournament, are both really awkward to play in a cash game, especially out of position.
Also, in cash games, I'll take every single +EV spot I can find, as over time, we'll make money, it's that simple. Losing our stack doesn't matter as we can just reload. In a tournament, if we lose our stack, we're out, so it's not quite as simple as "Am I 52/48 favourite here? Shove!"
In Response to Re: Just can't help myself...: Partly agree with this. Generally, people find it more difficult to go from Tournaments to Cash than the other way around, and I think that's because the knowledge required for cash is applicable to most, if not all formats of Hold'em.
The best cash players are most likely to be the best tournament and STT players as well. Look at the names of people who win the big tournaments on here, the majority are fairly good cash players as well as tournament players.
Improve your game, no one can do that for you