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Best poker set up i can use?

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  • Die_hardDie_hard Member Posts: 338
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Best poker set up i can use?:
    @Die_Hard. The processor in your laptop is definitely up to the job and 4GB memory is good too.  The only suspect component I'd say could be causing the problem is the Nvidia GeForce 9600M GT integrated graphics chip.  For comparison my old Geoforce card in my PC was made in 2006 and has a relative speed of 664.  Checking your Nvidia GeForce 9600M GT its relative speed is 334. That's the only issue I see with your laptop. As to the internet connection, I find wireless hopeless unless you have a perfect connection which is rare. Go to www.speedtest.net and run a speed test, what are your ping, upload and download speeds? Also try and run it with 8 tables open, playing them shouldn't be necessary. In the download client I've just opened 10 cash tables, not playing them though, lol, and combined they are using about 5KB/s download and less than 2KB/s upload so data usage of Sky Poker is negligible. 2 ways to test your problem. 1. Use an ethernet cable to connect the laptop to the router and see if that is any better. (Although you say it isn't above) 2. Borrow / use another PC with a better graphics card and see if that improves matters.
    Posted by Machka
    Thanks Acid Man & Macka

    Apologies to OP for hijacking thread too, I'll go away no probs if you want me too lol - you seem to be sorted now though which is gurrrd :)

    I forgot to say - my laptop's CPU usage when playing about 5+ tables is pretty much 85-100%, playing 7 is stays on 100% most of the time (this is after shutting everything else running down too).

    These (utter garbage results) on IE if that makes a difference (use this for SKy Poker as it's even slower on Firefox - this using the browser version as even 2 tables is unplayable with the download):-

    Wireless - no tables
    Ping - 89ms
    Download - 1.35
    Upload - 0.51

    Wireless - 8 tables (CPU Usage stuck on 100% being used)
    Ping - 370ms (How does this suddenly go up this much?)
    Download - 1.19
    Upload - 0.45
  • MachkaMachka Member Posts: 4,627
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Best poker set up i can use?:
    In Response to Re: Best poker set up i can use? : Thanks Acid Man & Macka Apologies to OP for hijacking thread too, I'll go away no probs if you want me too lol - you seem to be sorted now though which is gurrrd :) I forgot to say - my laptop's CPU usage when playing about 5+ tables is pretty much 85-100%, playing 7 is stays on 100% most of the time (this is after shutting everything else running down too). These (utter garbage results) on IE if that makes a difference (use this for SKy Poker as it's even slower on Firefox - this using the browser version as even 2 tables is unplayable with the download):- Wireless - no tables Ping - 89ms Download - 1.35 Upload - 0.51 Wireless - 8 tables (CPU Usage stuck on 100% being used) Ping - 370ms (How does this suddenly go up this much?) Download - 1.19 Upload - 0.45
    Posted by Die_hard

    If your CPU is showing at pretty much 100% on 7 or above then it looks like that processor along with the integrated graphics isn't a great combination so you're pretty much stuck.  Looks like that laptop isn't up to the job past 6 or 7 tables.

    The no tables results looks ok, not fantastic but certainly fast enough to play.  The ping is borderline but I'd say it's acceptable, with no tables running!

    The reason it goes up to much after you start running multiple tables is just due to contention on the internet connection.

    As soon as you start multiple tables they all want to send and receive data and it's all essentially going down the same line.  So either your laptop or the wireless router is having problems sending and receiving quick enough.

    Try it wired and I'll expect you'll see a massive improvement.
  • Die_hardDie_hard Member Posts: 338
    edited April 2012
    Ah right thx.

    I'll tes it wired in a bit if I get chance or tomorrow :)

    Edit: missus gone to bed :) so do it shortly.
  • Die_hardDie_hard Member Posts: 338
    edited April 2012
    No better whatsoever :(

    Wired - no tables
    Ping - 75ms
    Download - 1.30
    Upload - 0.48

    (BRB Wired)
    Wired - 8 tables (CPU Usage stuck on 100% being used)
    Ping - 119m
    Download - 1.3
    Upload - 0.45

    An IT mate consultant of mine did some line tests a while ago and said I could get a maximum of 2.5MB through the phone line.

    This may well have nothing to do with anything here (althrough the rest of the internet works fine), but the last couple of weeks only, after playing the same 7 tables for an hour or so, if I click ANYWHERE on the lobby, the whole site crashes, the tables all time out then a box pops up for each table saying do I want to recover page, which by the time I have, I have lost my seat on every table. This happens every single time I play :(
  • MachkaMachka Member Posts: 4,627
    edited April 2012
    Just for reference I'll run a quick test, baring in mind I have a 20MB down / 2MB up service.

    Wired: 1 table as I'm playing in a tournament (probably briefly)
    Ping: 20ms
    Down: 19.30
    Up: 1.96

    I'll open a bunch of tables...

    16 tables open in standard view.

    The one table I'm playing is responding fine, no lag. (Actually, if I make Firefox the active app then the tables does lag.)

    Skypoker is using about 35% CPU.

    Ping: 22ms
    Down: 16.80
    Up: 1.98
  • Die_hardDie_hard Member Posts: 338
    edited April 2012
    I've always said it's down to how much CPU usage the site uses as I (and many other who have said on here) have no problem with multiing a lot more tables on other sites. I have been told umpteen times by people on here though that it's nothing to do with it....

    What do you think about that? Your superduper connection is lagging with ONE table!

    Edit: And using 35% with ONE table - what would it be with 6/7/8+?
  • MachkaMachka Member Posts: 4,627
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Best poker set up i can use?:
    No better whatsoever :( Wired - no tables Ping - 75ms Download - 1.30 Upload - 0.48 (BRB Wired) Wired - 8 tables (CPU Usage stuck on 100% being used) Ping - 119m Download - 1.3 Upload - 0.45 An IT mate consultant of mine did some line tests a while ago and said I could get a maximum of 2.5MB through the phone line. This may well have nothing to do with anything here (althrough the rest of the internet works fine), but the last couple of weeks only, after playing the same 7 tables for an hour or so, if I click ANYWHERE on the lobby, the whole site crashes, the tables all time out then a box pops up for each table saying do I want to recover page, which by the time I have, I have lost my seat on every table. This happens every single time I play :(
    Posted by Die_hard

    Hard to exactly find where the lag is coming from without another PC / fast laptop to test on.

    I'd say a combination of your laptop struggling with it's CPU / graphics chip combination and wireless isn't helping.

    You problem with the browser crashing along with the issues you're having with the download client would say to me there is something wrong with the flash / adobe air installation.  Pinpointing that would be a hard job too.
  • MachkaMachka Member Posts: 4,627
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Best poker set up i can use?:
    I've always said it's down to how much CPU usage the site uses as I (and many other who have said on here) have no problem with multiing a lot more tables on other sites. I have been told umpteen times by people on here though that it's nothing to do with it.... What do you think about that? Your superduper connection is lagging with ONE table! Edit: And using 35% with ONE table - what would it be with 6/7/8+?
    Posted by Die_hard

    Re: Best poker set up i can use?

    posted at 10/4/2012 10:00 PM BST on SkyPoker.com
     
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    Just for reference I'll run a quick test, baring in mind I have a 20MB down / 2MB up service.

    Wired: 1 table as I'm playing in a tournament (probably briefly)
    Ping: 20ms
    Down: 19.30
    Up: 1.96

    I'll open a bunch of tables...

    16 tables open in standard view.

    The one table I'm playing is responding fine, no lag. (Actually, if I make Firefox the active app then the tables does lag.)

    Skypoker is using about 35% CPU.


    Ping: 22ms
    Down: 16.80
    Up: 1.98

    I had 16 tables open (playing on 1) and my PC is 3 years old so less than entry level for a PC these days.
  • Die_hardDie_hard Member Posts: 338
    edited April 2012
    Ok cheers, your help is much appreciated.

    In other words though - I'm screwed lol, without getting hold of an amazing spec laptop (which I don't know anyone who'd got one) and paying £35ish p.m. for BT Infinity - both these just for testing purposes :(

    I'll have to struggle on just being really peed off playing here, which actually sounds pretty dumb lol.
  • MachkaMachka Member Posts: 4,627
    edited April 2012
    I said on the previous page this entry level laptop should work perfectly (assuming your internet is up to scratch).

    Re: Best poker set up i can use?

    posted at 2/4/2012 9:53 PM BST on SkyPoker.com
     
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    I'm not great laptop expert but any i5 based one would do the job for you.  Even an i3 based should be fine but for the price of an i5 there's no reason not to get one.

    This isn't a recommendation, I just did a quick search and a decent spec Lenovo (IBM) laptop is about £400 and then a nice 22" monitor is £100 or less if you look around.
  • AcidMan27AcidMan27 Member Posts: 3,752
    edited April 2012
    Just done a customized system on Chillblast that Machka mentioned. This would be great for poker, i'd personally select two different monitors but it gives you an idea what you can get. It's easy to put together a custom system on there.

    http://www.chillblast.com/pconf.php?productid=18103
  • nagromnagrom Member Posts: 198
    edited April 2012
    Thanks for the input AcidMan and Machka, very helpful. Using an ethernet cable as opposed to just wireless has increased speed significantly, although it does slow down a lot with a few tables open. Is this a good indicator that a new system would be beneficial?
  • AcidMan27AcidMan27 Member Posts: 3,752
    edited April 2012
    What's the current spec of your PC/laptop Nagrom ?
  • nagromnagrom Member Posts: 198
    edited April 2012
    Laptop is :

    HP G56 Notebook
    AMD V140 Processor 2.3GHz
    RAM 2GB
    64-bit Operating System
  • MachkaMachka Member Posts: 4,627
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Best poker set up i can use?:
    Laptop is : HP G56 Notebook AMD V140 Processor 2.3GHz RAM 2GB 64-bit Operating System
    Posted by nagrom
    It is processor in your notebook.  That is a very slow processor compared to others that are also having performance issues.

    A relative speed index is:

    nagrom's              AMD V140                                          679
    belsibub's             Intel Core2 Duo E6750 @ 2.66GHz      1674
    Machka's (3yr old) AMD Athlon II X3 435                         2500
    Die_Hard's            Intel Core2 Quad Q9000 @ 2.00GHz    3018
  • nagromnagrom Member Posts: 198
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Best poker set up i can use?:
    In Response to Re: Best poker set up i can use? : It is processor in your notebook.  That is a very slow processor compared to others that are also having performance issues. A relative speed index is: nagrom's              AMD V140                                          679 belsibub's             Intel Core2 Duo E6750 @ 2.66GHz      1674 Machka's (3yr old) AMD Athlon II X3 435                         2500 Die_Hard's            Intel Core2 Quad Q9000 @ 2.00GHz    3018
    Posted by Machka
    Wow mine is really cr@p haha. Explains a lot, thanks Machka. I see most new processors are scoring around 6000 at the moment!
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