Did I play this bad?

bignoise10

Hi guys.Just wondering if there was anything else I could do here.Trying to improve my game.Thanks.

/2012)PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancewi03Small blind 150.00150.005850.00bignoise10Big blind 300.00450.005297.50 Your hole cardsAJ   zxghostxzFold    RUBY635Call 300.00750.005582.50billebud21Fold    ms-treeFold    wi03Call 150.00900.005700.00bignoise10Raise 1200.002100.004097.50RUBY635Fold    wi03Call 1200.003300.004500.00Flop  J8A   wi03All-in 4500.007800.000.00bignoise10All-in 4097.5011897.500.00wi03Unmatched bet 402.5011495.00402.50wi03ShowQ10   bignoise10ShowAJ   Turn  6   River  K   wi03WinStraight to the Ace

Dudeskin8

I prefer shove pre.

Postflop fine. 

silentbob

In Response to Re: Did I play this bad?:

I prefer shove pre. Postflop fine. 
Posted by Dudeskin8

You play more MTT's than me but would it really be better to shove pre with ~18 bigs?

Obv post flop is fine & nothing more than bad luck.

bearlyther

The limper in the small blind has got 7 big blinds shove!!

Dudeskin8

@ Silentbob - If you raise from 18bb stack here and are flatted then miss flop you're in a lot of pain also OOP to first limper.

When you shove you most likely have best hand anyway but also make the game nice and easy.

BorinLoner

In Response to Re: Did I play this bad?:

In Response to Re: Did I play this bad? : You play more MTT's than me but would it really be better to shove pre with ~18 bigs? Obv post flop is fine & nothing more than bad luck.
Posted by silentbob

I think this should be a shove. 18BB isn't a bad shoving stack with 2 limpers and 3BB in the middle already. The problem is if we raise to 1200, we only get re-raised by a hand that has us in big trouble but most of the time we'll get called and will be forced to play the hand out of position and we'll miss the flop 2/3 times. That's going to be really bad for us. So basically when we make it 1200 the ideal scenario is for everyone to fold. The same is true when we're shoving but the shove is more likely to achieve the desired result.

18BB is towards the top end of what we can shove. If we had 25BB or so, it's not so straightforward.

EDIT: Actually the ideal scenario when we shove is that we'll get called by AT or worse but that's probably unlikely.

bignoise10

Appreciate the advice guys.Just need to work on my game a bit(quite a bit actually).

grantorino

jam pre, your line is ok too