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50NL - Action card on turn
EvilPingu
Member Posts: 3,462
What to do with top 2 pair here?
Only notes on villain are that he had played a couple of peculiar starting hands out of position.
Only notes on villain are that he had played a couple of peculiar starting hands out of position.
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| EvilPingu | Small blind | £0.25 | £0.25 | £51.82 | |
| LUCKYSAMMI | Big blind | £0.50 | £0.75 | £48.13 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| Villain | Raise | £1.50 | £2.25 | £49.54 | |
| jjohnny5 | Fold | ||||
| SJspanky1 | Fold | ||||
| shawsok | Fold | ||||
| EvilPingu | Call | £1.25 | £3.50 | £50.57 | |
| LUCKYSAMMI | Fold | ||||
| Flop | |||||
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| EvilPingu | Check | ||||
| Villain | Bet | £2.00 | £5.50 | £47.54 | |
| EvilPingu | Call | £2.00 | £7.50 | £48.57 | |
| Turn | |||||
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| EvilPingu | Check | ||||
| Villain | Bet | £3.00 | £10.50 | £44.54 | |
| EvilPingu | Raise | £9.75 | £20.25 | £38.82 | |
| Villain | All-in | £44.54 | £64.79 | £0.00 | |
| EvilPingu | ??? | ||||
Comments
im thinking hes got A QS A KS ?? or maybe could have a7 its a tought one but to bh im never folding it!
I think its fine so far against villain as described now snap off the shove. I dont mind flatting turn v certain villains
Think I'd take the less messy route here and fold.....wait and see how he plays in later hands and take him down when ya know he is a serial bluffer
We dont know what villain calls/shoves here, so raising to fold to a shove seems kinda like bluffing to me. Its either raise and call it off or flat imo without very clear reads on what he flats and what he shoves when we c/r
Whats he shoving thats worse? I think probably only a bluff which is possible because the turn is a perfect bluffing card for villain but 3 betting the turn all in looks really strong here especially after you have check raised and therefore i dont think 2 pair is good enough.
I probably fold unless i have a nice read.
I think i call this, would he bet small on turn with set? i dunno, plenty of hand he can turn into bluffs here like Aks, or continuing with ksqx.
It comes down to the player really, villain turn sizing followed by shove is weird, more info would be nice tbh like how wide/narrow is his UTG opening range etc.
I think this is a poker stove hand, (dont have it on work computer or i would do it for you) but inputting villain likely value range and bluffing range would help to decide if you did the right decision or not regardless of the outcome.
this
c/c turn is ok
a/s
call, sigh - & maybe lols
Unfortunately binked a K on the river, but that's Poker.
If he doesn't know your game then it looks like a big hand. I doubt he'd do this with a set, since against an average player you'd only expect the shove to be called by a flush and your check-call, check-raise line does look like a flush draw that's hit.
As it happens, I don't like the check-raise on the turn either. I'm not sure you knew what you wanted him to do when you check-raised. Did you want him to call, fold or raise? I guess you were thinking he might have AK or AQ but even against that range wouldn't a check-call line be better?
I wrote this before seeing your last post, EvilPingu. Kinda looks like I'm being wise after the event now. lol
In hindsight, c/c turn is probably better and just hope the river isn't a spade.
When we check-raise I think we want a call but we fold out alot of hands that we beat that might call a lead on the river. I think I check-call and then lead for about half-pot on a non-spade river, intending to fold to a raise. I fancy we'll get called by those AK, AQ hands and will only be raised by better. I think that's probably the best value play but I'm not completely sure so I'm open to argument.