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£5 DYM NL Omaha - Need help plz
MP33
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Folded Aces and Kings - Was this to tight - I,m happy with throwing the aces away as oppo was very tight and to deep but with Kings should i have seen it as an opportunity to get rid of someone?
I,ve now played 2 lost 2 but am gonna peservere with it so any help would be much appreciated on this form of the game
I,ve now played 2 lost 2 but am gonna peservere with it so any help would be much appreciated on this form of the game
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| sydn3y | Small blind | 150.00 | 150.00 | 1780.00 | |
| MP33 | Big blind | 300.00 | 450.00 | 2910.00 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| met66 | Fold | ||||
| ibbtissem | All-in | 2820.00 | 3270.00 | 0.00 | |
| sydn3y | Fold | ||||
| MP33 | Fold | ||||
| ibbtissem | Muck | ||||
| ibbtissem | Win | 750.00 | 750.00 | ||
| ibbtissem | Return | 2520.00 | 0.00 | 3270.00 |
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PPs _ What do ppl think to limping in Omaha - It seems to make sense a bit more sometimes
Also are the variants higher or lower in NL Omaha DYM,s as opposed to Hold em?
I'm sure some of the Omaha experts will be along shortly. I'm fairly new to PLO but I'd say neither of first two hands (esp first) are good hands. As its DYM i'd say good folds. Also, unlike NLHE, limping to see a flop is acceptable Actually for me it's mandatory! lol. NL Omaha looks like a sure fire way to burn money to me! There are a few EXCELENT omaha'ers on here so hopefully 1/2 will see this.
The initial raiser was pretty loose and thought he,d fold tbh but thought this was an ok spot to grt a cash if dbld up, but with the initial raiser calling as well i,m worried now as i must more than 50 % chance of going out now
Can any stats guys out there tell me what % i am here to win hand?
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancelalala631 Small blind 75.00 75.00 1375.00 MP33 Big blind 150.00 225.00 2090.00 Your hole cards 2 6 A A KERNINHO Fold aon Fold davidcc Raise 450.00 675.00 2755.00 lalala631 All-in 1375.00 2050.00 0.00 MP33 All-in 2090.00 4140.00 0.00 davidcc Call 1790.00 5930.00 965.00 lalala631 Show Q A 5 K MP33 Show 2 6 A A davidcc Show 2 10 K K Flop 8 9 5 Turn J River 6 MP33 Win Pair of Aces 5930.00 5930.00
2nd one is just an open fold. Naked kings (e.g. Pocket kings with no decent backup) with 3 hearts is quite a bad starting hand tbh. I know it's a pair of kings and it looks pretty, but just chuck it in the bin.
EDIT: Button, hmm... Okay *thinks*
3rd one is another open fold. 66xx is only ever going to flop middle or bottom set in Omaha, both of which will either win you a small pot or lose a big one most of the time.
Someone just knocked 2 players out and its now the bubble
Remember AA isn't great here.
1st hand - Open fold
2nd hand - Shove or fold (Prefer fold as not the highest level dym and people will call light and you basically just have kings)
3rd hand- Isn't terrible but prob open fold in DYM play is ok if deeper #
4th - As DYM can argue the fold but all in is fine the original raiser should of folded really but clearly thought way too much of his kings
5th - call flop check turn as that jack hits absolutely everything, check call if cheap enough looking to house up but prob check folding majority of the time.
6th - Shove pre for me tbh but raise is fine just dont think your stack is deep enough. NH
Paul
Can any stats guys out there tell me what % i am here to win hand?
64%.
So say As Kc Qs Jc
So you've got AKo, AQs, AJo, KQo, KJs, QJo. Alot of very nice playable hold em hands that can draw to the nuts.
Taking your first hand as an example Ah Js Ad As
You've basically got AA, AJs and AJo. You're AA can only improve by hitting another Ace and you're holding one in your hand that is just going to waste. AJo isn't the best hand in the world, so you've got AJs really.
Now if you consider that everyone has 6 hands, say there's 3 in the pot, would you wanna take AJs 18-way?
Firstly you can not afford to be blinded by the quality of one hand within your opening hand of 6 because you could easily be up against someone with 6 nut drawing hands.
Secondly You need to be very careful of 2 things in an omaha hand and that is danglers and and cards that remove your outs dead in your hand. A dangler is a card that just does nothing to your hand and does not work with the other cards, this removes 3 nut drawing hands from the 6 immediately. iIn hand 1 and 2 you have dead cards in your hand which weaken the hands a lot , the third ace and the thrid heart, which leaves you with less outs.
Thirdly whilst in NLHE you can look at your hand and say i have aces or kings, in omaha you have to be aware of the differences between good aces or kings and bad aces or kings. Hands 1 and 2 are prime examples of bad aces and kings.
Lastly of all the hands you posted you really only have 1 very good hand in there and lots of marginal to weak ones.And that is hand 6 the 9TJQ, double suited would have been even better. With that you have 6 nut drawing hands off the bat so you have much more chance of connecting with the flop and winning the pot.
To give you a good example of hand strengths AAKKds is the best starting hand you can get but up against 9TJQds(other 2 suits) is only about 2 to 1 favourite preflop( same as AKo vs 72o)
Hope some of this is of some use
I got that a bit wrong then - Thought against 2 players and in Omaha it would be lower
MP
Played a cpl today and getting much more used to playing these dbl connecting and suited hands.
Played 1 PLO wich i cashed in although it always helps when youve got 1 player away the whole game.
I did register for another PLO DYM but waited 20 minutes and still no-one else had reg,d which i found suprising
so went back to NLO and cashed again , although i did play a holdem DYM in between and got bt on the bubble so thats 2-1 up so far today.
Finsihed session at 4-2 up but reaaly struggling to find Omaha DYm,s to play (NL and PL ) so ended up switching to holdem for last cpl
MP