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showing someones sharkscope stats in chat

DazlerDazler Member Posts: 3,970
edited April 2012 in Poker Chat
I was just on a table and had a player show the stats of myself and another player from sharkscope, to me this is giving other players an advantage or information they may not have got. Yes you can look it up yourself but that is upto the individual player isnt it. What are the rules for this does anyone know?
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,736
    edited April 2012

    Report it to Customer Care Dazler, & to Sharkscope.

    It is against the T & C's of both Sharkscope AND Sky Poker.

    If we want to eradicate this nonsense, the players MUST report it.     
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  • DazlerDazler Member Posts: 3,970
    edited April 2012
    thankyou tk i have done just that, i wasnt sure wether it was or wasnt but to me is really bad and wouldnt dream of doing it to someone at a table and have told people in the past that its not right when ive seen it done to other people. I wasnt aware that i could report it on sharkscope either so i will do that also. thanks for your response.
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  • Spad3sSpad3s Member Posts: 269
    edited April 2012
    Im pretty sure you can block yourself from sharkscope too.

    Are sky cash games tracked anywhere?
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  • big_steelbig_steel Member Posts: 43
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: showing someones sharkscope stats in chat:
    Im pretty sure you can block yourself from sharkscope too. Are sky cash games tracked anywhere?
    Posted by Spad3s
    yes you can block yourself from sharkescope
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  • DazlerDazler Member Posts: 3,970
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: showing someones sharkscope stats in chat:
    Im pretty sure you can block yourself from sharkscope too. Are sky cash games tracked anywhere?
    Posted by Spad3s
    you can block it if you want but im not bothered about hiding it but what i dont want is information about my winnings and losses and any other information pasted in the chat box. If a player wants to search thats fine but to give information during a game is as bad as colusion in my eyes. You cant search for cash games at least not that im aware of.
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,736
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: showing someones sharkscope stats in chat:
    Im pretty sure you can block yourself from sharkscope too. Are sky cash games tracked anywhere?
    Posted by Spad3s
    1) Yes, you can.

    2) No, they are not.
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,736
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: showing someones sharkscope stats in chat:
    thankyou tk i have done just that, i wasnt sure wether it was or wasnt but to me is really bad and wouldnt dream of doing it to someone at a table and have told people in the past that its not right when ive seen it done to other people. I wasnt aware that i could report it on sharkscope either so i will do that also. thanks for your response.
    Posted by Dazler
    Two extracts from Sharkscope's T & C's are below.


    ".....Material from www.sharkscope.com and any other World Wide website owned, operated, licensed, or controlled by "CJM Solutions, LLC" may not be copied or distributed, or republished, uploaded, posted or transmitted in any way, without the prior written consent of CJM Solutions, LLC......"

    "....Use of data from site to abuse other players is unacceptable. We will refuse to accept new subscription requests from persons reported doing this. Current subscribers guilty of abusive use of the statistics may have their subscriptions immediately terminated with no refund, at our discretion. Any player found to be using the statistics within this database to abuse other players will also forfeit their option to a block of their own data......

    Please note that this applies to the Community/Forum, too, IF the stats & data are used to abuse, mock, or diss players.
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  • VasigilVasigil Member Posts: 14
    edited April 2012
    So, what! deal with it. Everyone gets two cards, what happened in previous hands has no bearing on the randomness of how the cards are delt, it dosn't matter diddly squat about shakscope and anyone knowing your stats, I mean come on. Its not like botting or cheating.
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  • DazlerDazler Member Posts: 3,970
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: showing someones sharkscope stats in chat:
    So, what! deal with it. Everyone gets two cards, what happened in previous hands has no bearing on the randomness of how the cards are delt, it dosn't matter diddly squat about shakscope and anyone knowing your stats, I mean come on. Its not like botting or cheating.
    Posted by Vasigil
    its against the terms and conditions and gives players information about you while your at the table. Its not right nor should it be. If every player showed everyones stats at the table it would give a huge advantage to other players knowing where there strengths and weaknesses are. As i said if you wanna look it up go ahead but you shouldnt be telling every player at the table. This site doesnt allow for sharkscope software to show at the table and that is a good thing IMO. And sharkscope have emailed me and said

    'I am very sorry you have had this unfortunate experience; it's very
    disappointing these players exist. In these cases we will try and
    locate their subscription to void their account' 

    theres a reason they take it serioulsy. 
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  • FCHDFCHD Member Posts: 3,178
    edited April 2012
    If one person has access to the information, it's no problem for everyone else to have it too.
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  • wason06wason06 Member Posts: 61
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: showing someones sharkscope stats in chat:
    So, what! deal with it. Everyone gets two cards, what happened in previous hands has no bearing on the randomness of how the cards are delt, it dosn't matter diddly squat about shakscope and anyone knowing your stats, I mean come on. Its not like botting or cheating.
    Posted by Vasigil
    +1
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  • scouse_redscouse_red Member Posts: 5,968
    edited April 2012
    whatever you may feel about it individually, really has no beaning, as. has as been shown above it breaks the terms and conditions set out by sharkscope, so whether you agree or not is immaterial,it's wrong pure and simple
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  • DazlerDazler Member Posts: 3,970
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: showing someones sharkscope stats in chat:
    whatever you may feel about it individually, really has no beaning, as. has as been shown above it breaks the terms and conditions set out by sharkscope, so whether you agree or not is immaterial,it's wrong pure and simple
    Posted by scouse_red
    +1
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: showing someones sharkscope stats in chat:
    So, what! deal with it. Everyone gets two cards, what happened in previous hands has no bearing on the randomness of how the cards are delt, it dosn't matter diddly squat about shakscope and anyone knowing your stats, I mean come on. Its not like botting or cheating.
    Posted by Vasigil
    Well as others have said, opinions really have no bearing as it is against the Ts & Cs but aside from that, of course it makes a difference.

    Yes we all get 2 cards and what's happened in previous hands doesn't affect the odds of things happening in the current hand, but does that mean you would play exactly the same against Redmond Lee as you would against a massive fish/calling station? No, so knowing if a player absolutely crushes what he plays or is a big loser does make a difference.
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  • Poker_FailPoker_Fail Member Posts: 1,755
    edited April 2012
    The only reason it is bad is because people who do this do it maliciously
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  • DazlerDazler Member Posts: 3,970
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: showing someones sharkscope stats in chat:
    The only reason it is bad is because people who do this do it maliciously
    Posted by Poker_Fail
    and that was the way it was intended by said player and for that reason he was reported.
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  • spornybolspornybol Member Posts: 8,212
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: showing someones sharkscope stats in chat:
    The only reason it is bad is because people who do this do it maliciously
    Posted by Poker_Fail
    TO BE HONEST I`VE HAD THIS BEFORE BUT I DON`T DO SHARKSCOPE NOR DID I KNOW IT WAS AGAINST RULES, ALTHOUGH WHEN IT DID COME UP MY COMMENT WAS,

    AND I PLAY FOR FUN WHAT`S THE PROB, SOON PUT THEM ON TILT.

    BUT IF COMES AGAIN THEN I WILL REPORT

    EDIT; I DO WELL PUTTING OTHER`S ON TILT ( NO COMMENT )
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