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£1 mtt easy fold here??

3barrels3barrels Member Posts: 434
edited April 2012 in The Poker Clinic
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
3barrels Small blind   40.00 40.00 2625.00
CTC Big blind   80.00 120.00 6050.00
  Your hole cards
  • 8
  • 8
     
eon1961 Fold        
Emmy44 Raise   160.00 280.00 2540.00
scoucer Raise   240.00 520.00 2397.50
3barrels Call   200.00 720.00 2425.00
CTC Fold        
Emmy44 Call   80.00 800.00 2460.00
Flop
   
  • 3
  • 4
  • 4
     
3barrels Check        
Emmy44 Check        
scoucer Bet   240.00 1040.00 2157.50
3barrels Call   240.00 1280.00 2185.00
Emmy44 All-in   2460.00 3740.00 0.00
scoucer All-in   2157.50 5897.50 0.00
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  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited April 2012
    yep

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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited April 2012

    Should be a fold, but in a £1 mtt they dont have to have you beat, but against two players u would have to dodge plenty of overcards

    Still a fold, on balance

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  • 3barrels3barrels Member Posts: 434
    edited April 2012
    both players were very active at the table
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited April 2012
    Got to be fold or shove pre for me. 

    Calling 3bets (even min ones) OOP is not going to be profitable (you don't have set-mining odds imo). If it was just intial raise that's fine but here you could just be creating dead money if first raiser decides to 4bet. 

    Also in this spot where you somehow flop an overpair I would argue it could be best to fold to scoucer's bet as you are likely against a bigger pair (I presume you were set-mining pre?) and even if he hasn't playing future streets when A/K/Q/J hits will be very tough to make perfect decisions. 

    As played easy fold but I personally don't think you should have got this far.
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  • 12671267 Member Posts: 936
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: £1 mtt easy fold here??:
    Got to be fold or shove pre for me.  Calling 3bets (even min ones) OOP is not going to be profitable (you don't have set-mining odds imo). If it was just intial raise that's fine but here you could just be creating dead money if first raiser decides to 4bet.  Also in this spot where you somehow flop an overpair I would argue it could be best to fold to scoucer's bet as you are likely against a bigger pair (I presume you were set-mining pre?) and even if he hasn't playing future streets when A/K/Q/J hits will be very tough to make perfect decisions.  As played easy fold but I personally don't think you should have got this far.
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    he does ...
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited April 2012
    call pre in a small buyin, fold in a bigger.

    fold flop regardeless as we did not match our eights with an eight on the board.
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited April 2012
    I always want at least 15-1, that's 3000, what's in pot + biggest effective stack is 3060 but this is JUST about good enough, however like I say we might not even see a flop in this hand. 

    Still fold or shove pre for me. 
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  • BorinLonerBorinLoner Member Posts: 3,863
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: £1 mtt easy fold here??:
    Got to be fold or shove pre for me.  Calling 3bets (even min ones) OOP is not going to be profitable (you don't have set-mining odds imo). If it was just intial raise that's fine but here you could just be creating dead money if first raiser decides to 4bet.  Also in this spot where you somehow flop an overpair I would argue it could be best to fold to scoucer's bet as you are likely against a bigger pair (I presume you were set-mining pre?) and even if he hasn't playing future streets when A/K/Q/J hits will be very tough to make perfect decisions.  As played easy fold but I personally don't think you should have got this far.
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    This is the key to me. We can't really set-mine because we're not closing the action. We end up donating 200 extra chips to the pot when we're shoved on behind by the initial raiser. Set-mining for 10% of your stack isn't too good anyway. Correction: It's not 10% of your stack. I was looking at the flop stacks.
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  • 3barrels3barrels Member Posts: 434
    edited April 2012
    yes i was set mineing here it is
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    3barrels Small blind   40.00 40.00 2625.00
    CTC Big blind   80.00 120.00 6050.00
      Your hole cards
    • 8
    • 8
    		     
    eon1961 Fold        
    Emmy44 Raise   160.00 280.00 2540.00
    scoucer Raise   240.00 520.00 2397.50
    3barrels Call   200.00 720.00 2425.00
    CTC Fold        
    Emmy44 Call   80.00 800.00 2460.00
    Flop
       
    • 3
    • 4
    • 4
    		     
    3barrels Check        
    Emmy44 Check        
    scoucer Bet   240.00 1040.00 2157.50
    3barrels Call   240.00 1280.00 2185.00
    Emmy44 All-in   2460.00 3740.00 0.00
    scoucer All-in   2157.50 5897.50 0.00
    3barrels Fold        
    Emmy44 Unmatched bet   62.50 5835.00 62.50
    Emmy44 Show
    • K
    • Q
    		     
    scoucer Show
    • Q
    • Q
    		     
    Turn
       
    • 8
    		     
    River
       
    • 4
    		     
    scoucer Win Full House, 4s and Queens 5835.00   5835.00
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  • 3barrels3barrels Member Posts: 434
    edited April 2012
    im glad the KQ pushed cos if i got to the turn i would of lost alot if not it all
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: £1 mtt easy fold here??:
    call pre in a small buyin, fold in a bigger. fold flop regardeless as we did not match our eights with an eight on the board.
    Posted by beaneh
    Why do we choose to play badly in smaller BI but good in higher BI ?
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  • BorinLonerBorinLoner Member Posts: 3,863
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: £1 mtt easy fold here??:
    im glad the KQ pushed cos if i got to the turn i would of lost alot if not it all
    Posted by 3barrels
    If you'd seen the turn, you would have won alot, not lost. 8's full of 4's beats 4's full of Queens... I'm guessing you misread the board. lol
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  • 3barrels3barrels Member Posts: 434
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: £1 mtt easy fold here??:
    In Response to Re: £1 mtt easy fold here?? : If you'd seen the turn, you would have won alot, not lost. 8's full of 4's beats 4's full of Queens... I'm guessing you misread the board. lol
    Posted by BorinLoner
    oo so i did tnxs lol
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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited April 2012
    Fold pre.
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: £1 mtt easy fold here??:
    In Response to Re: £1 mtt easy fold here?? : Why do we choose to play badly in smaller BI but good in higher BI ?
    Posted by Dudeskin8

    in the words of one of the loves of my life Billie.


    BECAUSE WE WANT TOOOOOOOOO

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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: £1 mtt easy fold here??:
    In Response to Re: £1 mtt easy fold here?? : in the words of one of the loves of my life Billie. BECAUSE WE WANT TOOOOOOOOO
    Posted by beaneh
    Yes, she isn't half bad :).
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: £1 mtt easy fold here??:
    In Response to Re: £1 mtt easy fold here?? : Yes, she isn't half bad :).
    Posted by Dudeskin8


    Girls. Mmmmm! With brassieres ........................ and legs - mmm



    looooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
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