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Poker Rakeback
slocke
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I was wondering if anybody uses these rakeback sites? Sounds almost too good to be true
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I remember you saying not long ago on CH865 that the C4P system is one of the best over all the sites. Presuming the 12% figure given to me by the 'Head of Poker' and what that other guy said is correct then it's hardly the greatest - without doubt the worst.
I'm also presuming you're going to tell me otherwise now lol and that it's a lot more than 12%ish (I hope so
(Edit: not that I want anyone to play anywhere else obviously)
Tbh though I've not exactly worked anything out from my own amount of playing, more an educated guess. Maybe I'm miles out as I used to play more tables and higher limits, just that I would presume the guy I spoke to on here would be able to get it right lol.
However a casual player getting say 500 points a month gets a mere 8% back if they played DYMs and MTTs, and probably only 4 or 5% if they got those points from very low stakes games (With the extortiionate rake).
IMO they really need to even it out a bit, it's too exponential
I made 'Priority Club' once when I got about 11,500k points and got either £175/£200 back, can't remember which. I played loads and loads that month. If that had been at £2/5, £1/2 or even £.50/£1 that I used to play I would've been looking at over £2k back.
I played £.50/£1 for 3 years before Sky and probably AVERAGED about (edit after checking old spreadsheet) £200 per WEEK, although I did play a lot more then (wench tied me down now haha). The days of hammering it and getting £500+ cakeback p.w. are long gone now though lol.
(Hope I'm allowed to say this here? No probs if it's removed)
For the sake of clarity & balance, & although I try to avoid threads like this, I must comment here.
"....I asked the 'Head of Poker' to work it out for me a couple of months ago, he said that's what it worked out at approx...."
"....just that I would presume the guy I spoke to on here would be able to get it right lol....."
"Lol" indeed!
I think there may be a misunderstanding on your part here, though I hasten to add, I'm sure it is wholly unintentional.
"Rakeback" is not an expression anyone in the business at Sky Poker ever use, or have ever used, we approach it very differently, & quite deliberately.
Nor can the C4P at Sky Poker be compared with rakeback on other sites, as the system does not work like that, again, by design, there is no "accurate figure", as it "depends".
As the comments attributed to our Head of Poker seemed so unlikely, I spoke with him this morning, & he assures me that a conversation along the suggested lines did not take place, & could not have taken place for the reasons I have suggested. I'm quite sure you had a convo with him, if you say so, but he would never have replied along the lines you suggest.
You can, of course, get all sorts of rakeback at other Online Poker Sites, but Sky Poker do things their own way, just as, say, Pokerstars (another site that does not offer "rakeback") do. Both sites report much-increased traffic, whilst almost every other site is seeing rapidly declining traffic & market share.
There is a great deal more to Online Poker sites than rakeback!
Every site offers different things to players, & Sky Poker will continue to offer many USP's, some of which no other poker site on earth offer. We are happy with the balance, &, it seems, so are our players, judging by their ever increasing numbers, which must be the ultimate litmus test.
There are many sites out there that offer 60 percent rakeback plus to players, regardless of how much they play. Ive received this.
Usually they are small sites, which are part of a large network.
But sky is better then these sites in other ways, even if it doesnt give as much rakeback.
What I dont like about sky is that it doesnt show what rakeback Im getting and I dont know how to figure it out.
The Sky Poker Cash 4 Points details are clearly outlined HERE
I would, however, save you time by suggesting that there is no point trying to come up with a precise & comparable %, because the system does not work that way - there is no valid comparision. I've been asked the question so many times, & my reply is always the same - its like trying to compare apples & pears.
Is PokerScout accurate, which shows poker networks like ipoker and 888 having a cash player traffic peak as 7000.
As apposed to sky which peaks at 700.
Fair enough that sky is growing, but seems unfair to put out facts about other networks without backing them up with some info.
[QUOTE]Is there an official place you can lookup stats? Is PokerScout accurate, which shows poker networks like ipoker and 888 having a cash player traffic peak as 7000. As apposed to sky which peaks at 700.
Posted by Spad3s
Depends which stats, & if you chose to believe them.
Whilst I can confirm that both the 888 & i-Poker networks are bigger than Sky Poker, I can also confirm - officially - that those numbers are wrong. You only have to see how many players are on Sky Poker at peak times to verify that.
Would be interested in seeing the official traffic stats that back this up. Any stats I can find show big networks like ipoker and 888 with steady traffic for last 6 months.
I believe i-poker is down around 30% y-o-y, give or take a bit. 888, since getting in bed with WSOP, have fared better. i-Poker, of course, is a network, comprising scores of little sites.
It matters not, big or small. Players have the choice where they play, that's the beauty of the business.
(Total C4P bonuses paid / Total rake intake) x 100
How exactly is C4P supposedly so different to rakeback? You pay a certain ammount in rake, and get a reasonably certain % of that back
I wouldnt believe everything you read on 2plus2 Tikay. Unless its about poker strategy, they are always right there.
Hi Poker_Fail
I think you misunderstand what Tikay is saying. Cash for Points is like rakeback but it isn't rakeback (hence his analogy).
What it works out at just depends on what you play and the tier you reach. Every player is different so the amount is different.
We've always been totally transparent about this - all the information you need is on this Cash for Points page and this page on earning points.
These combined with the new points widget make it easier this clearer than ever.
Thanks
Sky Poker