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Keeping the faith?

JimbobadobJimbobadob Member Posts: 117
edited April 2012 in The Poker Clinic
Can someone please tell how to do it beacause for the last 5 months on sky everytime i play i get beat by these bad callers / hands hitting there flops / turns / rivers ?
i even had notes on caller, so i knew he was going to call and even when we get to the river im thinking he's probably got a k but knowing how my hands go on sky hes got the 2 diamonds but i cant fold it.
Im really starting to wonder whats the point and poker for me is becoming unenjoyable getting beat time and time again by rubbish.
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
xx Small blind  £0.04 £0.04 £4.30
Jimbobadob Big blind  £0.08 £0.12 £8.42
  Your hole cards
  • A
  • K
     
xx Fold     
xxxx Call  £0.08 £0.20 £7.64
xx Fold     
xx Fold     
xx Fold     
Jimbobadob Raise  £0.24 £0.44 £8.18
xxxx Call  £0.24 £0.68 £7.40
Flop
   
  • A
  • 6
  • Q
     
Jimbobadob Bet  £0.40 £1.08 £7.78
xxxx Call  £0.40 £1.48 £7.00
Turn
   
  • J
     
Jimbobadob Bet  £0.80 £2.28 £6.98
xxxx Call  £0.80 £3.08 £6.20
River
   
  • 10
     
Jimbobadob Bet  £2.00 £5.08 £4.98
xxxx All-in  £6.20 £11.28 £0.00
Jimbobadob Call  £4.20 £15.48 £0.78
Jimbobadob Show
  • A
  • K
   
xxxxShow
  • 8
  • 3
   
xxxx Win Flush to the Ace £14.31  £14.31

Comments

  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited April 2012
    Raise bigger pre flop. Once he's limped, you wanna be making it about 40p wth AK. Obviosuly if he calls, he flops a flush (which is about 50/1) and you're never gonna get him to fold.

    It's so hard to put someone on a flopped flush but when he shoves the river, you are only ever gonna be splitting the pot at best.

    I would probably bet more on the flop and more on the turn. In this case obviously it won't make much difference but the other times this flop comes, you have AK and they have a flush draw, or  Ax or KQ or lots of other hands, you wanna be getting the max.
  • EvilPinguEvilPingu Member Posts: 3,462
    edited April 2012
    In a strange way, this is a great outcome for you as well, despite losing money.

    Your opponent is 118/1 to flop a flush. This time, his 118/1 shot came in, but the other 117 times, he won't flop a flush - The fact that he has flopped a flush means next time the same opponent has 83s, he'll remember the time he flopped a flush and beat AK, but next time, he's not going to flop a flush and you'll make a load of money.

    I'm currently reading a great book, called "The Mental Game of Poker", and in there, there's an excellent analogy in there which suits this hand perfectly:

    "Poker isn’t an ATM; it’s more like a slot machine calibrated to pay out your edge (minus the rake). Earning your edge means you have to pay out a lot of what you take in—sometimes in dramatic fashion."
  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited April 2012
    Defo can raise more pre.

    Flop fine.

    Turn bet bigger imo. 

    River fine as well.

    If he keeps playing 83dd like this you will print money long term, just make sure you stay on his table :).
  • JimbobadobJimbobadob Member Posts: 117
    edited April 2012

    Have i upset someone in the sky it department !!!!

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    suedehead7 Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £10.45
    Jimbobadob Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £9.10
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • A
         
    THECOW79 Fold     
    Grafix Fold     
    scrumdown Fold     
    callmick08 Call  £0.10 £0.25 £12.03
    suedehead7 Fold     
    Jimbobadob Raise  £0.40 £0.65 £8.70
    callmick08 Call  £0.40 £1.05 £11.63
    Flop
       
    • J
    • 5
    • 4
         
    Jimbobadob Bet  £0.70 £1.75 £8.00
    callmick08 Call  £0.70 £2.45 £10.93
    Turn
       
    • 10
         
    Jimbobadob Bet  £1.70 £4.15 £6.30
    callmick08 Raise  £3.40 £7.55 £7.53
    Jimbobadob All-in  £6.30 £13.85 £0.00
    callmick08 All-in  £7.53 £21.38 £0.00
    callmick08 Unmatched bet  £2.93 £18.45 £2.93
    Jimbobadob Show
    • A
    • A
       
    callmick08 Show
    • 10
    • J
       
    River
       
    • 6
         
    callmick08 Win Two Pairs, Jacks and 10s £17.06  £19.99
  • JimbobadobJimbobadob Member Posts: 117
    edited April 2012
    people say poker is about enjoyment but how can it be enjoyable when you keep losing time after time after time.?????

    The hand posted below is just a taster of what i get ALL ther time. I know i could have played i better but i kew what was coming.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    DodgySkag Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £9.24
    scrumdown Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £10.04
      Your hole cards
    • Q
    • Q
         
    El_Mogul Fold     
    suedehead7 Fold     
    Jimbobadob Raise  £0.30 £0.45 £12.37
    THECOW79 Call  £0.30 £0.75 £6.07
    DodgySkag Fold     
    scrumdown Fold     
    Flop
       
    • 4
    • 10
    • Q
         
    Jimbobadob Bet  £0.38 £1.13 £11.99
    THECOW79 Raise  £0.76 £1.89 £5.31
    Jimbobadob Call  £0.38 £2.27 £11.61
    Turn
       
    • 8
         
    Jimbobadob Check     
    THECOW79 Bet  £1.14 £3.41 £4.17
    Jimbobadob Call  £1.14 £4.55 £10.47
    River
       
    • 7
         
    Jimbobadob Check     
    THECOW79 Bet  £2.28 £6.83 £1.89
    Jimbobadob Fold     
    THECOW79 Muck     
    THECOW79 Win  £4.20  £6.09
    THECOW79 Return  £2.28 £0.35 £8.37
  • JimbobadobJimbobadob Member Posts: 117
    edited April 2012
    p5lease feel free to coment on these hands to see where i went wrong and what i could do better, bearing in mind that the player im playing against will almost certanly hit their cards.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    nextonet25 Small blind  150.00 150.00 1140.00
    Jimbobadob Big blind  300.00 450.00 690.00
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • 9
         
    THEPFJ Call  300.00 750.00 1505.00
    xxYOTTIExx Fold     
    bonnie123 Fold     
    nextonet25 Fold     
    Jimbobadob Check     
    Flop
       
    • 2
    • 9
    • Q
         
    Jimbobadob All-in  690.00 1440.00 0.00
    THEPFJ Call  690.00 2130.00 815.00
    Jimbobadob Show
    • K
    • 9
       
    THEPFJ Show
    • 4
    • 4
       
    Turn
       
    • 4
         
    River
       
    • 10
         
    THEPFJ Win Three 4s 2130.00  2945.00
  • dub1dub1 Member Posts: 149
    edited April 2012
    This villains just upgraded from facebook poker with a VPIP100 PFR2 and WTSD 50

    The only strategy to beat these guys is to wait for strong hands and value bet, I know you got AKo but your hands just too vulnerable on that flop to value bet. Wait for better situations to happen that are less risky.

    guarantee this tard would slow play like most tards on NL8, you showdown and loss a small pot.

    so I'd play like this :-

    Check flop villiain bets min I call
    Check turn villain bets 8p I call
    Check river villain shoves I FOLD

    Hope this helps

    You may think that this strategy is predictable and unbalanced but remeber

    Villain thinks a royal flush is something you do after taking a BIG S * * T
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