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Tweet of the Week?

Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,736
edited April 2012 in Poker Chat

Sky Poker, & even me, get quite a few Tweets.  

Some are interesting, some are just bad beats, disguised or otherwise, “guess what the idiot called with?”, (which is kinda lol, because it implies it is not our fault we lost!), many are ironic or sarcy, but lots of them are really rather interesting.  

This one came in to the TV Show’s hashtag last night though, & it really got me thinking….. 

“…..I only play online - I am colour blind - cannot tell chips apart. Are there any live games with numbers on chips?....” 

What a great question! 

The short answer is “yes”, almost every Live Venue has numbers on the chips to tell us what denom they are.  

The long answer is even more interesting though…….

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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,736
    edited April 2012

    What is “colour blindness”? 

    What it says, really, though it has quite a few oddities & specifics. 

    If you are colour blind, it is not curable, it is permanent. Sad, but true. 

    Strangely, it affects a lot more men than women – 7% of all males, but less than 1% of females. How very odd. 

    It comes in various forms, too, lots of variables.

    The most common is the inability to distinguish  between red & green. This one is called “deuteranopia”.

    Memorise that, in case I ask questions later.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,736
    edited April 2012


    Live Poker, will it stop us playing it? No, absolutely not. 

    Almost all poker chips these days have the denom on them (in Licensed Venues, anyway, as they have a legal obligation not to discriminate against such things as colour blindness).  

    And we can always ask what the last action was -  “how much was the raise, or call?”
     

    If it is No-Limit, sadly, we are NOT permitted to ask the Dealer how much is in the pot, so in that respect, yes, we need to concentrate a little harder, ‘tis true. Well actually, in case some pedant gets on my case, we CAN ask what is in the Pot, but as the Rules go, the Dealer should not tell you. Dem’s da Rules. 

    One downside here is that poker chips tend to be in pastel, rather than primary colours, & I assume that does not help much.  “Common-sense” rules in most cases too.

    If we explain our problem, invariably someone will assist. Poker players as a collective love to help others. No, they do!
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,736
    edited April 2012

    Successful poker players who are colour-blind? 

    Well I hope he does not mind me mentioning it, but as he is our top poker bloke chappie here, I can tell you that Thewy is colour blind, & he has the deuteranopia version, can’t tell red from green sorta thing.   

    So he copes somehow, not sure how, because whenever I see his chips, they are all in higgly-piggly piles, bit like a barbers pole. 

    In fact, incoming bad-beat story here. (The gist of this is true, but I may have some details round my neck).  

    A good few years back, Thewy was playing the WSOP Main ($10,000 Entry fee) & as was the custom at the time, I had purchased 10% of his action. I mean, he’s bound to cash in it eventually, surely? Well that was the thinking. 

    I was there, too, not playing the Main – that pleasure still awaits – but working for someone, I forget who now.    

    I kept wandering past his table, all innocent-like, to see how “my man” (& my money) was getting along. He was fine, north of average, excellent. 

    And then, suddenly, he was in the Press Room, with a curly lip. 

    I asked him what happened – you have to, even though you don’t want to know & he told me the most peculiar story. The exact details evade me, but it was something like this. 

    He is in “The Big Blind”, folded to the SB who pops it up, trying to nick the blinds no doubt. Thewy has 3-3, & re-pops, as you do.

    Trouble is, he threw in the wrong colour – here’s the colour blindness coming in to play - & threw in green 5k’s, instead of red 500’s. Whoops.

    Thewy momentarily gasps, then tries to conceal his surprise, sort of “yes, of COURSE I meant to do that”.  
     

    Small Blind geezer then re-raises!  As you do when you KNOW someone has accidentally overbet.

    Quite legit, perfectly standard, this is the pokerz, not a Sunday afternoon whist drive down the Church hall.
     

    This is where it all went a bit pete tong. 

    Thewy thinks the geezer has done that because of the mistake with the colours, taking advantage of him. And he don’t like that much. So, in such times, a good player sticks it right in the villains eye. (Metaphorical, hold the complaints please). And he did.

    I mean, he had 30,000 chips, at 300-600 or whatever, so he is playing deep enough to pull these moves. 
     

    Anyway, the geezer snaps Thewy, holding 9-9.  The 8-8-9 flop was a thing of beauty for the other chap.

    Even Thewy, deuteranopioa & all, could see that in fact.   

    So, Mr Tweeter with colour blindness, worry not, Live Poker will be just fine for you. As long as you don’t stack your chips higgley piggley, as Thewy does.         
  • splashiessplashies Member Posts: 3,680
    edited April 2012
    I'm colourblind between red + green.

    The only time it has affected my life was when i played cricket. If there were lots of trees in the background i would sometimes lose the flight of the red ball.

    It wasn't too much of a problem as i was an opening bowler and fielded mainly at fine leg.
  • Sky_DaveSky_Dave Member Posts: 3,288
    edited April 2012
    Did you know two of the most talented snooker players of recent times have a form of colour blindness? Peter Ebdon and Mark Williams. Both of them are in the more fortunate position of being able to ask the referee to identify the brown ball if asked, so a bit kinder than those No Limit Hold'em dealers. 

    Both of them have erroneously potted the brown believing it to be a red. Interesting pub quiz fact thing there for you.
  • barnsiebarnsie Member Posts: 496
    edited April 2012
    i am also colour blind between red and green and vice versa


    not been  a big problem to me playing live as people are always willing to help if required

    as poster says above it caused me a problem last saturday playing cricket when i completely missed the flight of a beamer and luckily i had the box on :)

    i blame the trees


  • RICHORFORDRICHORFORD Member Posts: 5,571
    edited April 2012
    Interesting thread. A quick bit of Googlage has also revealed the following colour blind celebs...


    Paul Newman wanted to be a pilot for the Navy. It was during the flight physical that he discovered he was colour blind. Instead, Newman trained to be a radioman and a gunner and, obviously, eventually went on to become an actor.

    Meat Loaf, on the other hand, tried to fail his Army physical by listing his numerous ailments: he was colour blind, 68 pounds overweight, had a trick shoulder and was prone to concussions. He was drafted anyway.

    Jack Nicklaus. As Sports Illustrated puts it, dude “couldn’t tell you a green number from a red on a leader board if the winner’s check depended on it.”

    Bing Crosby. Bing’s loud clothing was fodder for many jokes back in the day – Bob Hope especially relished zinging him for his bad taste. But it’s no wonder that Bing picked out such tacky pieces – he was, quite literally, colour blind. “He will think something is a beautiful blue,” his wife once explained, “and it will turn out to be a bilious green.”

  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited April 2012
    I was actually playing the side event at the UKIPT and there was this chap that looks the spitting image of Tikay. We could see he was struggling with betting etc, and i asked if he'd played much live. I had no doupt hed played alot online, as he was a good player, but clearly he was struggling with either seeing the chips or the differance in value.

    The chap who was 2 to my left was a very nice guy and didnt actually mind me asking informed me that he was colour blind and he really dodnt know which chip was what. This was very clear by his stack. A lad from the North West of England who was sitting between us done one of the nicest things ive ever seen at a poker table. He offered and asked the dealer if it was ok to split the chaps chips into colours with the top chip showing the value face up.

    Everyone said this was ok and it made a massive differance for the chap. Such is human nature.
  • hackinhackin Member Posts: 10
    edited April 2012
    Interesting thread - always amazed to see how many people are colour blind - and to what extent. Unfortunately I am the rarest kind - virtually totally colour blind. On the Ishihara test (http://www.colour-blindness.com/colour-blindness-tests/ishihara-colour-test-plates/) I can only see plate 1 and plate 24.

    Three things (I think) are interesting about colour blindness:

    1) It is amazing how many people are colour blind to some degree - and may never know it.
    2) The first question that everyone asks is "how do you manage with traffic lights". (The answer is simple - the one at the top is red!!)
    3) One of the worst things about being colourblind is choosing / matching clothes. When I travel I can only travel with one colour type (all blues / all browns etc). I never buy clothes - after buying a pair of trousers when I was 16 that I thought were a nice shade of blue - turned out they were bright purple!

    Back to poker - although people are always helpful I have stopped playing live. I mostly played in US - and at least at the places I played - I found the chips almost never had values on them - only colour coded. This means that not only can I not sort my chips out but I have no idea how much I have.  In addition I have to ask what each bet is.
    Yes - people are very helpful - but after a while it gets too embarassing.

    Anyway - better I stay with online - I have too many tells when I play live!!

    Keep up the great work - will see you online.

    hackin

    PS - any suggestion son playing timed tournaments - I always seem to lose out very near the end...
  • donkeyplopdonkeyplop Member Posts: 3,795
    edited April 2012
    I used to get my pinks and browns mixed up to very bad consequences................
  • MachkaMachka Member Posts: 4,627
    edited April 2012
    An interesting but related subject is colour perception.

    How can you be sure that the colour blue you see is the same as the colour blue I see?

    Pretty hard to prove.
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,524
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Tweet of the Week?:
    I used to get my pinks and browns mixed up to very bad consequences................
    Posted by donkeyplop
    That could be messy !
  • belsibubbelsibub Member Posts: 2,527
    edited April 2012
    I can't see yellow(just looks white, green turns blue & red turns magenta) but just in my left eye so could be worse.
  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited April 2012
    Im colourblind its bu gger when i play snooker :( was a bit confusing at DTD but thats when stacking them. I have to make sure similar colours are seperated as can be a bit confusing as you cant always see the numbers.

    Snooker Brown or Red sometimes cant tell, other day i hit the pink instead of white :( all depends on the snooker balls used but has cost me some points in the past #fun
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Tweet of the Week?:
    Im colourblind its bu gger when i play snooker :( was a bit confusing at DTD but thats when stacking them. I have to make sure similar colours are seperated as can be a bit confusing as you cant always see the numbers. Snooker Brown or Red sometimes cant tell, other day i hit the pink instead of white :( all depends on the snooker balls used but has cost me some points in the past #fun
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    hahaaaaaa

    Bet this was funny for people watching. 


  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Tweet of the Week?:
    In Response to Re: Tweet of the Week? : hahaaaaaa Bet this was funny for people watching. 
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Yes they was like wat are u doing? and laughed :( then didnt believe i was colourblind lol in a league game tooo :( 
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