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MTT - KK overplayed?

Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
edited April 2012 in The Poker Clinic
No reads random player and new to table after they rearanged.

3bet pre sizing ok?

Flop think standard maybe bit more?

Turn ugly card, I can't check so this bet/fold and sizing?

River he has less than pot so can/should I check fold here?

Also Tourney is £1.10 £20 GTD.

jb906Small blind 40.0040.003500.00
Dudeskin8Big blind 80.00120.006497.50
 Your hole cards
  • K
  • K
   
vicukFold    
RichiSwiftFold    
jackmooreRaise 160.00280.003540.00
prestontillidieFold    
jb906Fold    
Dudeskin8Raise 320.00600.006177.50
jackmooreCall 240.00840.003300.00
Flop
  
  • 2
  • J
  • 9
   
Dudeskin8Bet 560.001400.005617.50
jackmooreCall 560.001960.002740.00
Turn
  
  • Q
   
Dudeskin8Bet 1040.003000.004577.50
jackmooreCall 1040.004040.001700.00
River
  
  • 8
   
Dudeskin8Bet 2020.006060.002557.50
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  • BorinLonerBorinLoner Member Posts: 3,863
    edited April 2012
    I would make it more pre-flop. You're going to be out of position which, as you know, will make it tougher to get value on later streets and you really want him to get it in pre-flop or be able to put his whole stack in on the flop with a draw. You could make this 500 instead of 400... Minor quibble really.

    Flop is okay. Again, you could make it a little bit more but then you're in danger of giving away your hand as an overpair that is afraid of draws. If you think he's good enough to pick up on that, then you'd be giving him the chance to play perfect poker against you. I'd still want to get it in on this flop, though, against most players. Might make this a full-pot bet, even though I hardly ever make full-pot bets; it's just such a wet board. There are so many bad cards in the deck, we're very likely to be ahead right now and if he's going to get it in while behind it's most likely to be now - flush draws, straight draws, Jacks, underpairs.

    The turn is the worst card in the deck, obviously. I don't hate betting but I think that if you're going to put in 1000 you might as well put in 2700. You're caught between the devil and the deep blue sea really. What would you do if you check and he shoves? How many bluffs are in his range? I dunno...

    On the river, I don't think you can realistically bet. You're only beating one-pair hands and I think his range is much stronger than that now. His stack will demand a call with any set, two-pair, straight or flush so you're really hoping he has only some KJ, KQ, Jx, Qx type hand. Sadly I think it's a check-fold on the river...
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  • EvilPinguEvilPingu Member Posts: 3,462
    edited April 2012
    As Borinloner said, probably raise bigger pre, but just horrible how the board ran out.
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited April 2012
    bet bigger pre, bet flop bigger and lets you jam turn

    river is a pretty sucky card also, I prob jam most rivers but I might c/f this one
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited April 2012
    yukkkkk board. B/f turn and river i would say as a result i want to make it small but you dont have much choice. :( sigh.
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  • mickgil75mickgil75 Member Posts: 328
    edited April 2012
                           Raise high pre flop kk,the donks call.shuv all in.one donk mite call.he,s his his top pair .then he hits a sr8t on the turn, river, and wins.I have been told this is all luck.lol.its just another day on sky poker,u dont ave 2 be good,u have to be lucky,so they tell me.that reminds me,i better go and do the lotto.lol
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