Campaign Agaisnt Abusive Players

MRBURNS4

The reason for this is I am fed up with how many abusive players are now on this site.

This goes from the mild end of people telling other players how bad they are or they only win as the site is rigged etc to swearing to the extream end of the scale where players have told me they will beat me up at the next SPT

Now what got me thinking is sure I have been playing long enough to brush it off but what about new players or people of different character who these people must be driving away from the site? I even got to the stage if at least one person isnt nasty or telling me how bad I am I worry about my game lol

I know you can ignore them, report them but what I am concerened about is the culture changing for the worse on sky. I personally stay with sky because there is such a strong community and this is important for the sites development because other sites do offer better bonuses and high tornys but we have something far stronger with this community which we all can take advatage to learn from each other.

So my thoughts are to make sure these bullys and rude people know this is not the site to behave like that on. It would be great for example if the regulars agreed if they did see any abuse to another player maybe strengh in numbers of backing the person up so the bullys know that every time they do this they are not just attacking a player but the whole community?

Maybe we should get together a group of poker Angels to stamp this out lol

I dont know how other players feel about this but I hope a open discussion will move this forward because I for one do not a trend to continue of abusive people.

Love to hear peoples thoughts on this.

daniTON

i aggree,there are too many abusive players on all sites but a lot do it just to put you on tilt.the best way to deal with them is too ignore them,if they think youre a bad player then they have too prove it by taking youre money,if they cant, they prove themselves to be full of "manure",as for voilence,if they want some then they can have some lol but ive not been threatened in that way.im curious though,what would be your exact form of attack?people already get reported?what more can be done?

MRBURNS4

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i aggree,there are too many abusive players on all sites but a lot do it just to put you on tilt.the best way to deal with them is too ignore them,if they think youre a bad player then they have too prove it by taking youre money,if they cant, they prove themselves to be full of "manure",as for voilence,if they want some then they can have some lol but ive not been threatened in that way.im curious though,what would be your exact form of attack?people already get reported?what more can be done?
Posted by daniTON

I hope that if as mentioned if you see a player being attacked we all make sure the bullys know other players will not stand for it as we know a bully hates confrontation, as I mentioned it dosent bother me what bothers me is the culture of attacking someone is fine. I hate to think of a new player or someone who maybe is not so confidant being driven to other sites and I think it wouldnt take long for these bullys to go elsewhere or not say anything if they knew everytime they started they were actually starting on the whole comunity. I do have other ideas but not sure I should post them in a open forum lol

davelufc

Agree with OP on this,

You have to remember that ALL of the players who hurl abuse in the chatbox are just cowards and cyber warriors.

They would not say anything to your face if you played live,

I just turn chat off, it tilts them more when they DONT get a reaction.

oynutter

People annoy eachother, this is because people are annoying--- If you chose to interact with people, chances are they will annoy you, I'm telling my Mum!!

Sky_Poker

Report it to customer care and it will be dealt with appropriately.

1267

There is a massive argument agaisnt this.

80 percent + of these players who get abusive, are bad players, they moan about beats because they don't understand vairance, they moan about loose calls because they don't understand pot odds, or set mining etc.. etc..
Why would i want to get these players chat banned, which would probably lead to them leaving the site ?

Personally i think by getting rid of these players, we are just losing the chance of very easy money.

If you can't take abuse from a random keyboard warrior, who knows nothing about you then i believe this says alot about your character.

oynutter

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Report it to customer care and it will be dealt with appropriately.
Posted by Sky_Poker

My Mum will deal with it appropiately, I can tell you!!!

Dazler

maybe put a button at the tables so when you get a rude and abusive player, a video of soothing hypnotherapy lady talks about puppys and kittens and tells them you are feeling very very sleepy your life is great be kind and nice to others and feel at peace. 123 wakey wakey your out of the room.

FlyingDagg

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There is a massive argument agaisnt this. 80 percent + of these players who get abusive, are bad players, they moan about beats because they don't understand vairance, they moan about loose calls because they don't understand pot odds, or set mining etc.. etc.. Why would i want to get these players chat banned, which would probably lead to them leaving the site ? Personally i think by getting rid of these players, we are just losing the chance of very easy money. If you can't take abuse from a random keyboard warrior, who knows nothing about you then i believe this says alot about your character.
Posted by 1267

1267 It's good to hear other players opinions on this but with this stance you are condoning chat abuse. We are POSSIBLY losing the chance of easy money but there are a darn sight more easy targets who are not abusive in the slightest. I'd invite you to read Mr Burns original post ( you can find it in TeamTalk, TPT thread next to last page) and read exactly what abuse he received. which led to him starting this thread and I think you may change your view. If you still have the same attitude I really hope you don't have to put up with the same level that he has but if you do I'm afraid you only have yourself to blame.

As an aside I enjoyed our HU battle in Survivor last night and well played.

1267

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In Response to Re: Campaign Agaisnt Abusive Players : 1267 It's good to hear other players opinions on this but with this stance you are condoning chat abuse. We are POSSIBLY losing the chance of easy money but there are a darn sight more easy targets who are not abusive in the slightest. I'd invite you to read Mr Burns original post ( you can find it in TeamTalk, TPT thread next to last page) and read exactly what abuse he received. which led to him starting this thread and I think you may change your view. If you still have the same attitude I really hope you don't have to put up with the same level that he has but if you do I'm afraid you only have yourself to blame. As an aside I enjoyed our HU battle in Survivor last night and well played.
Posted by FlyingDagg

I will have a read, although personally i could take any abuse from a randomer who knows nothing about me , afterall , or could alternatively just turn chat off .  Obviously it's a whole different matter when people may know you, or have seen you on TV etc..   and start abusing people because of appearance,  sex, race etc..
If people do have a problem and choose to report it, then thats fine and i have no problem with that at all.

And thanks,  thought I'd blew it after my awful call with QJs   , but luckily (for me) i just completely coolered you.   gg

huuuuume

In Response to Re: Campaign Agaisnt Abusive Players:

There is a massive argument agaisnt this. 80 percent + of these players who get abusive, are bad players, they moan about beats because they don't understand vairance, they moan about loose calls because they don't understand pot odds, or set mining etc.. etc.. Why would i want to get these players chat banned, which would probably lead to them leaving the site ? Personally i think by getting rid of these players, we are just losing the chance of very easy money. If you can't take abuse from a random keyboard warrior, who knows nothing about you then i believe this says alot about your character.
Posted by 1267

THIS

sounds like the beginnings of some vigilante hate mob. the way suggested in this thread with dealing with chat abuse is ridiculous. if its that important and you're sensitive to it then report it

i have been on sky for years and seen no end of chat abuse.  i have the black female avatar and you would be amazed at the amount of racist abuse its taken.  at the end of the day i didnt sign up with sky for the chat functon and if i was interested in chatting to random people on the internet i would join a chatroom.  im here to play poker and a few words in the chat box really does make a blind bit of difference.

MRBURNS4

I am pleased to see any form of discussion but may I just clarify a couple of points, I hoped I had made it clear but from some of the responses I would like to say again

I am not worried about these people it does not effect me it is a discussion about changing the culture, look back at football when it was aceptable to be racist etc and then the culture changed there.

I dont need to go crying to anyone I just wanted to raise the topic and see what people think as a site dont we need to always progress?

huuuuume

remove the chat box altogether

if you want to talk to other players use the forum

profman15

Hi Mr Burns
I agree with the abuse etc on site. Usually itmeans they're tilting and consequently giving you the advantage. I will ask the person being abused to 'take the high road' in order to try to stop it escalating AND to let the abuser know thathe's out of order and there is at least one other at the table who does not agree with his behaviour.
I would suggest that SKY take more obvious action by:

1. Acknowledging the excessive behaviour in a notice in general chat for a week and the consequences of anyone's actions.
2. To ask, no INSIST, THAT members report rude behaviour, stating EXACTLY what is required for members to report. eg table number, time of swearing etc, people involved and a general desciption of what happened so this can be verified. I am surprised that there have been lots of posts from people who didn't realise that they can report it. Please SKY, make people aware and let them know that their name will not be used in any contact with the abuser etc.
3. Have people scanning for rude/abusive/racist behaviour. Mind, if you don't like surely there's enough of us to report it and let SKY ban their chat for an appropriate period.

There is absolutely no need for it and the site will be better for the absence of it....

IF YOU CAN'T DO THE TIME, DON'T DO THE 'CRIME'!

3.

sikas

"If you feelin' like a p!mp grinder, go and brush your shoulders off
Ladies is p!mps too, go and brush your shoulders off
Sikas is crazy baby, don't forget that boy told you
Get, that, dirt off your shoulder"

scotty77

I have an idea that maybe Sky could look at implementing.

When people give abuse in the chat, they usually use a swear work which Sky detects and filters out...how about everytime this feature is implemented, Sky also put a short message in the chat box like 'Please remember to be respectful to the other players at the table, constant misuse of the chat box may result in your chat privallages being taken away'

Should be fairly easy to implement IMO and may cool some people down in the heat of the moment

FlyingDagg

Good idea Ryan and I would also like to see implimented an individual chat option on or off for each player. It's way overdue.

MRBURNS4

The last few post were exactly what I hoped for is discussion I know this thread has caused a lot of criticism but I think that is because a lot of people misunderstood why I am rasing this. People just auto assume I am on a moan and of course on my team page I did start off on a rant but even put in the posting I am ranting.

I am def not moaning but poker is in relative terms a very new popular game which is and has evolved at a very fast pace. I am disappointed that people think I can not see the very basic that off course we want to have these players for easy profit but why not look at it the other way if abusive players did stop newbies joining are we not losing even easier profit?

There is things that can be done but it also requires a change of culture, I am sure these are the same people who used to go into A nd E and be abusive to the staff but now that is quite rightly not aceptable.

I dont care people have made a lot of nosies about my post because even the ones who think this is just a winge and have missed the point at least they are talking about it and thats all I wanted as that is always the first step to change attitudes

oynutter

I played on an Irish site, and I could click on an icon and a moderator would join the chat, sorts it out there and then. Very useful indeed, when your Mum is too busy.

Maggiesdad

The abusive players that annoy me are the ones that beat you, then tell you where you went wrong, when in reality, they have hit a less than 20% shot!