DYM Problems

robbie1992

Iv played alot of DYM games lately and im mostly always in the top 3, including 3 times today where all 3 times i have finished 4th.  Does anyone have any advice for the end of dym games, i play more tight but then people with no money go all in and before i know it im slipping down, thanks

GREGHOGG

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Iv played alot of DYM games lately and im mostly always in the top 3, including 3 times today where all 3 times i have finished 4th.  Does anyone have any advice for the end of dym games, i play more tight but then people with no money go all in and before i know it im slipping down, thanks
Posted by robbie1992

Hi Robbie, you have answered your own question.... When 4 handed the best strategy is targeted aggression. It takes lots of practice, but you must be prepared to shove with a wider range of hands, against the right opponants, if you want to be profitable overall imo.

Your two hole cards are sometimes irrelevant, there are certain, mathematical "auto ships" where i know im nearly always shoving before i get my cards... this is where the stack sizes and the passivity of my opponents dictate it!

If you want any more specific advice, please PM me. Id be happy to help

But a golden rule in DYMs... get it in first... you will be fine...

El_Mogul

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Iv played alot of DYM games lately and im mostly always in the top 3, including 3 times today where all 3 times i have finished 4th.  Does anyone have any advice for the end of dym games, i play more tight but then people with no money go all in and before i know it im slipping down, thanks
Posted by robbie1992

OK yeah, you want to be playing uber tight early on and then when its gets 4-handed (assuming all stacks are relatively shallow) you want to be shoving more. Don't be afraid to shove with rag aces at this stage especially when in the SB.

If it's 4-handed however and you have a big stack and the blinds are still quite small you don't need to be that active and you can afford to sit back a bit.

What stakes you playing BTW?

EvilPingu

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Iv played alot of DYM games lately and im mostly always in the top 3, including 3 times today where all 3 times i have finished 4th.  Does anyone have any advice for the end of dym games, i play more tight but then people with no money go all in and before i know it im slipping down, thanks
Posted by robbie1992

Huh? Last time I checked, 4th was outside the top 3 :P

End of DYMs, hmm... Pick your spots, don't just play the cards but play situations as well. If someone is raising your big blind every hand, jam on them once or twice with any two cards, knowing they'll fold most of the time

1267

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In Response to DYM Problems : OK yeah, you want to be playing uber tight early on and then when its gets 4-handed (assuming all stacks are relatively shallow) you want to be shoving more. Don't be afraid to shove with rag aces at this stage especially when in the SB. If it's 4-handed however and you have a big stack and the blinds are still quite small you don't need to be that active and you can afford to sit back a bit. What stakes you playing BTW?
Posted by El_Mogul

This is pretty horrible advice in my opinion.   Better to be shoving with 10 8 etc..  (in the right spots obviously) than ace rag.    Then at least when you get called by ak aq aj,  you arn't drawing too thin.

EvilPingu

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In Response to Re: DYM Problems : This is pretty horrible advice in my opinion.   Better to be shoving with 10 8 etc..  (in the right spots obviously) than ace rag.    Then at least when you get called by ak aq aj,  you arn't drawing too thin.
Posted by 1267

It's better to have T8 than Ace rag when against AJ. However:

- Having an ace in our hand makes it less likely that our opponent has an ace, so we're more likely to get a fold

- A3 had better equity against 99-KK than T8 does.

- When a fish calls us with some Kx junk, we're ahead with A3, whereas T8 is behind.

So it's not as simple as "I'd rather shove with T8 than Ace Rag" - However, there are times where I'd rather be called and have T8 than Ace Rag.

El_Mogul

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In Response to Re: DYM Problems : This is pretty horrible advice in my opinion.   Better to be shoving with 10 8 etc..  (in the right spots obviously) than ace rag.    Then at least when you get called by ak aq aj,  you arn't drawing too thin.
Posted by 1267

Horrible advice? Not at all. If we have an ace in the blinds it's less likely that our opponent has an ace. OFC I'm not saying just shove with ace rag, but 4-handed with high blinds and in LP it's a mistake to fold IMO!

robbie1992

Lol that confussed me, i understand that you gotta add pressure, but to be shoving with any 2 cards just seems a reciepe for disaster.  I prefer the rag ace then the 10 7, but i get what your saying, id always rather be in front though and if i lose then what can i do

Lambert180

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Lol that confussed me, i understand that you gotta add pressure, but to be shoving with any 2 cards just seems a reciepe for disaster.  I prefer the rag ace then the 10 7, but i get what your saying, id always rather be in front though and if i lose then what can i do
Posted by robbie1992

The point is that, you have alot of chance of getting folds and are usually never that far behind.

For instance, say you shove 78s and you walk into AK, you still have about 40% chance of winning the race, so if he folds 1 in 5 times (20%) that now makes your equity/chance of winnign 60% which is good. If you can't shove with weaker holdings, you will end up getting blinded down time and time again.