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A little advice please
gaga87
Member Posts: 64
Hi all, at present i am only playing the 30p dym's, playing up to 4 tables at a time.
I am not doing to bad at these but im finding that my BR is stuck between 7 and 8 pounds. I will have a good run and then lose a few and so on and im not really making any ground in the BR department.
I dont mind too much as i am getting to play alot of hands and learning all the time.
Since i started playing poker i think i have definately improved my play, I have gotten over the urge to play any hand when i havnet been dealt something decent for a while, and am also alot more aware of postion. i have even folded premium pairs when a board is very wet drawing straights and flushes and think im beat, In the early days i would just bet or shove thinking its got to be the winner.
I have been thinking about depositing another tenner to use for 5p 10p cash to see how i go with that.
So my main question is if you were in my position would you carry on playing the micro dym's or try something different?
I am not doing to bad at these but im finding that my BR is stuck between 7 and 8 pounds. I will have a good run and then lose a few and so on and im not really making any ground in the BR department.
I dont mind too much as i am getting to play alot of hands and learning all the time.
Since i started playing poker i think i have definately improved my play, I have gotten over the urge to play any hand when i havnet been dealt something decent for a while, and am also alot more aware of postion. i have even folded premium pairs when a board is very wet drawing straights and flushes and think im beat, In the early days i would just bet or shove thinking its got to be the winner.
I have been thinking about depositing another tenner to use for 5p 10p cash to see how i go with that.
So my main question is if you were in my position would you carry on playing the micro dym's or try something different?
Comments
Id recommend depossiting that extra tenner but 2p/4p cash with that kind of BR if your wanting to play cash that is.
cash can be very up & down,
so with a small b/roll i,d stick 2 dym,s
deposit another £10 & move up a level to 60p,
u could even try the odd £1.15 also.
good luck
:-)
dev
30p DYMs can be pretty brutal just because the rake is ridiculously high so you need such a high win-rate and even then you're BR will increase very slowly.
The sooner you can move up the levels in DYMs, the rake gets lower and they become much more beatable. So maybe deposit the tenner and start playing £1.15 DYMs, til you get to £25-£30 then give some £2.20s a go.
Good luck to you.
I would recommend you spend time watching cash training videos before even putting a penny on the cash tables. After you have watched maybe 50 hours of training videos, then start to combine watching videos with playing 2p 4p cash, to gain experience and hopefully build a bankroll.
Thinking about your game and analysing your game is very important.Their are so many tools for doing this online.
It is important to stick with what works for you in poker though. So if cash doesn't work out for you, after you have put a lot of time and effort into trying to be profitable, then stop playing cash and focus on another discipline that you are profitable in.
GL.
if you are going to deposit, then i suggest playing DYMs where the rake is not so high which it is at the 30p level for some reason. (Pay 30p - win 50p = return on investment of just 66%).
Deposit a tenner by all means but i would suggest 50. then stick to what you know and play the £1.15 DYMs where the ROI is closer to 75%. This will help you stop being raped by the rake and you shopuld see a significant increase in your winnings if you are indeed a winning player.
Heres a mission:
Deposit £50
Get a piece of a4 paper and divide it into 40 boxes (You can play 43 games for £50).
Play only £1.15 DYMs until you have filled in every box with a number; either Zero -- or Two. Once you have filled in all the boxes, then get your wife, girlfriend or friend to add them all up and come up with a number. I suggest someone else does this as interaction wiull help you see the results properly and you should have something to be proud of. If you now have 60 quid in your account - you are achieving an ROI of 20% which is good for DYMs (but as long as you have 51 pounds (2%) who cares - you are winning money.
Repeat the process with another piece of paper or use an Excel Spreadsheet and keep your results. By playing in blocks of 40, and by putting a date and time in each box, you can assess when you are winning (time of day wise, weekends, during week etc) and use this to avoid the times when you are a losing player.
I did a similar thing on another site with $3 SNGs and it works well.
Once you are comfortable and winning consistently at this level, move up to the £2.25s where agaon, the rake is lower and you should win even more money (ROI). I would only recommend this once you have enough in your Bankroll for at least 50 DYMs at the next level and preferably 100 (So either £112.50 or £225).
Once you have £165 or £330 then move up to the £3.30 level (Again the rake is lower and the ROI should increase? play is better at this level though so be prepared to step back if after 40 at this level you are not winning anymore.
Write out a plan and stick to it. Within a period of time, dependent on how often you play, you will move up through the levels. My advice though is once you have found a level where your ROI is 20% then stay at that level. Once you move upo to the £33 and £55 games, the swings can be atrocious, but if you are sticking to your rules then that shouldnt happen.
Good luck to you in your quest
Patrick
How did i get there. Well I just purley played freeroll tornys which ovb cost nothing so if you can cash, just 60p which i did a couple of times or even ft and get between £5-£25 your br will be doubled or more or will get you a free buy in for your next dym. Keep playing them till you get a decent amount.
Then once at that stage you can either continue playing small stakes dym or sit ngoes and build it upto around £30-£40 when you get to this stage then start playing the £1.10 DYM or £1.10 rebuy mtts but dont rebuy at this stage if you play them but add on if you need too, these you can bink around £30-£60 if you win one! there are only around 20-30 players so not big fields for a nice amount of ROI, deepstack tornys are good but they do take a long time and you get more runners. This will soon get you upto the £100 mark.
Once you are there then its all about br management just play 2.5% and maybe move over to the cash tables nl4. Be carefull though and if you lose 2 buy ins on cash leave the table or move to dym again. It all depends on which you feel comfortable with you may not like cash tables or you may not like mtts. DYM and just sticking with that your not gonna get anywhere fast but will get a steady increase aslong as you are comfotable that you can get winning streaks going. I wouldnt advise playing cash nl4 unless you have around £100 because your gonna need to rebuy and 2 rebuys on cash are gonna cost you at least £6-8 which is a big chunk esp if your having a bad run and you will be back to zero in no time.
It is doable if you are willing to do a month or so of grinding and have patience, Dont run before you can walk and those little wins soon ad up and then when you have enough br to play in bigger buy ins you will be glad you did it. Dont take risks i did that and it worked for the short term but then you hit a bad run and all your work was for nothing. I got upto the £120 mark each month but then bought in to high and had my usal bad br management with bad runs and had to start again. If i stuck to my plan i would prob of been up near the £800 mark or more by now.
GL with your disision and lookforward to see how you do.
So im thinking of playing Nl4 single table to begin with slowly adding a table as i feel more confident and playing the occasional dym or tourny on the side to mix things up.
Obviously to be making a profit would be nice and is always going to be a goal. At present i would be happy to sit down at a table and play a good amount of hands and finnish the sessions breaking even.
I am currently into week 10 of giving up smoking so i think through having the discipline of not smoking, i thought i must be able to discipline myself in the way i play poker. I dont know if this is linked or not but it has all happened in the same time period.
Just a little update. Been playing Nl4. Still breaking even. WOuld probably be up but made a few bad calls which i maybe should have binned but have always managed to bounce back. I dont mind so much as im still building my c4p so not all bad. Also bought into the 10k BH sat to play in the semi and placed so i will be playing the semi sat at 6pm so fingers crossed i can get into the main event.