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Live poker... blinds?

jh16jh16 Member Posts: 76
edited May 2012 in Poker Chat
Helloo, having never played live (hopefully will be doing so soon after i get a car)... how do the blinds compare in a tourney...

E.g 5 mins online is a turbo, 10 mins normal, 15 min blinds is slow etc

so how does that compare to live, noticed that the SPT Blackpool is 45 min blinds, where would that fit in??

(on that note, anyone from the south east, where is there to play live near Maidstone? if anyone knows would be appreciated)

thankss

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  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited May 2012
    somewhere between 10 and 15 mins.

    its pretty slow, but not painfully...

    off the top of my head the nearest live venue for you would be the full house poker club at Reigate

    there is also the G in Thanet.

    Stratford Aspers is prob do-able


  • jh16jh16 Member Posts: 76
    edited May 2012
    Thanks, nice reply.

    Errrrm whats 'the 48 hour rule'? Also if I were to go and play live cash, would i just take 100's of pounds with me or debit cards orrr?? lol

    thanks
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,726
    edited May 2012

    Hi jh.

    The "48 hour rule" is almost obselete in most Licensed Live Venues there days. In most cases, just turn up & play. In some Licensed venues - all the LCI venues for example (Rendezvous etc) - you do not even need to be a Member to enter the venue & play cash poker, you just walk straight in, sit down, & plasy. 

    Grosvenor Casinos still insist upon registering, being a member, & all that nonsense, but it is NOT a legal requirement, they just want your personal details for their database, so they can spam you with stuff.
     
    I believe your nearest fully Licensed Venue, (I would NEVER recommend you visit an unlicensed venue) would be Grosvenor in Thanet.

    All Casinos have cash machines where you can obtain cash via credit cards, they also have a cash desk where, again via "plastic", you can obtain cash. You cannot, however, use credit cards at the actual table, just cash, or "cash chips". Normally, in a British Licensed venue, "real money" is not permitted on the Table, though that is not the case in other countries.

    A 15 minute Online Clock is (very roughly) the equivelant of a 1 hour clock in Live Poker, because Live Poker is so much slower. I would estimate the 45 minute clock @ SPT Blackpool would be the equal of a 10 minute clock online, though it is hard to compare for lots & lots of reasons.  

    Hope that helps. 
      
  • 12671267 Member Posts: 936
    edited May 2012
    In my local casino,  the cash machines will charge a fee for using them,  so might aswell save yourself a few quid and get cash out before (tight i know).

    P.s  Don't forget to put the money on the table when exchanging for chips, if you hold it out in your hand you will look like an idiot for several "long" seconds.  lol.        

    Good luck
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,726
    edited May 2012

    1267 is correct. Most ATM's in Casinos charge a fee. However, the Cash Desk usually process it free.

    As to his other point, that's a great one. At the Poker Table, Cash Desk, or on House Games, cash is NEVER EVER handed DIRECTLY from player to Dealer, or vice-versa. The cash MUST be placed on the Table by the player, the Dealer then picks it up, counts it clearly onto the Table, then "claps" his or her hands to sort of prove there is no money in them, all of which is done in a way whereby CCTV Cameras can witness it. Sad to relate, this is necessary. Where there is cash, there will be cheats, trying to angle-shoot.  
     
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Live poker... blinds?:
    1267 is correct. Most ATM's in Casinos charge a fee. However, the Cash Desk usually process it free. As to his other point, that's a great one. At the Poker Table, Cash Desk, or on House Games, cash is NEVER EVER handed DIRECTLY from player to Dealer, or vice-versa. The cash MUST be placed on the Table by the player, the Dealer then picks it up, counts it clearly onto the Table, then "claps" his or her hands to sort of prove there is no money in them, all of which is done in a way whereby CCTV Cameras can witness it. Sad to relate, this is necessary. Where there is cash, there will be cheats, trying to angle-shoot.    
    Posted by Tikay10
    can you please explain how cash effects angle shoots please.
    only way i can think of is by forged notes.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,726
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Live poker... blinds?:
    In Response to Re: Live poker... blinds? : can you please explain how cash effects angle shoots please. only way i can think of is by forged notes.
    Posted by The_Don90
    The wider world is not as innocent as you may think, Don!

    The main reason is really collusion, or "improper" behaviour between the PLAYER & the DEALER.

    When we give cash in exchange for cash chips, the cash chips have a face falue that equates precisely to cash. So they are, effectively, "currency". When the dealer gives us £200 in chips in exchange for £200 in crispy pound notes, we can take those chips straight to the cash desk & convert them back into pound notes.
     
    So the wise guys soon sussed that if they could hand the dealer, say, £100, or £150, in exchange for £200 in cash chips, they have a nice little scam going....

    To prevent it, the system is used whereby.....

    The player places the cash on the Table, or cash desk. He or she CANNOT place it in the dealers hand, ever.

    The dealer then picks it up & counts it, note by note, onto the Table, usually in little rows of 10, 20, 25, whatever.

    The dealer then says "£200, yes?"

    The player agrees.

    The dealer then "claps" their hands in an up & down movement, to signify "look, nothing up my sleeves or in my hands", & then does precisely the same thing with the chips - lays them on the table, in neat piles, one by one. All observed by CCTV.

    That system exists in every single Licensed Venue on earth. Watch any trained dealer, or House Cashier, there are no exceptions.
     
    As I said elsewhere this morning, there is ALWAYS a reason for everything........
  • JockBMWJockBMW Member Posts: 2,653
    edited May 2012
    You learn something new every day.

    Thanks for the explanaition there 1267 and Tikay.  
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Live poker... blinds?:
    In Response to Re: Live poker... blinds? : The wider world is not as innocent as you may think, Don! The main reason is really collusion, or "improper" behaviour between the PLAYER & the DEALER. When we give cash in exchange for cash chips, the cash chips have a face falue that equates precisely to cash. So they are, effectively, "currency". When the dealer gives us £200 in chips in exchange for £200 in crispy pound notes, we can take those chips straight to the cash desk & convert them back into pound notes.   So the wise guys soon sussed that if they could hand the dealer, say, £100, or £150, in exchange for £200 in cash chips, they have a nice little scam going.... To prevent it, the system is used whereby..... The player places the cash on the Table, or cash desk. He or she CANNOT place it in the dealers hand, ever. The dealer then picks it up & counts it, note by note, onto the Table, usually in little rows of 10, 20, 25, whatever. The dealer then says "£200, yes?" The player agrees. The dealer then "claps" their hands in an up & down movement, to signify "look, nothing up my sleeves or in my hands", & then does precisely the same thing with the chips - lays them on the table, in neat piles, one by one. All observed by CCTV. That system exists in every single Licensed Venue on earth. Watch any trained dealer, or House Cashier, there are no exceptions.   As I said elsewhere this morning, there is ALWAYS a reason for everything........
    Posted by Tikay10
    Ah your explaination also covers the reason i didnt understand, my local casino means we get chips from the cash desk rather than at the table, so therefore i had to understanding of dealer handling money in such a manner.

    Ty for responce.
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