In Response to Re: Poker on 4 with Hartigan. : [QUOTE ]I think its a pretty good habit to "attempt" to scoop a pot when oppo mucks in anycase. If staff call for a ruling its just an aside. Posted by AMYBR
It's also a habit that would get you a time-penalty or worse in any well-run Venue...... Dealers award us the pot, we never take it until they do, for fear our hands will be, quite rightly, chopped off. I was in a Tourney once where Lord Numpty scooped in the Pot before it was awarded to him - wrongly. There had been THREE all-ins involved, & the Tourney had to be suspended for 45 minutes while the pot was re-constructed to everyone's satisfaction. Not an easy ask,. given that in these spots, all three players exaggarated their claimed chip stack pre-hand...... The kid got a 1 hour pernalty though, to everyone's great satisfaction. Short of total disqualification, that's the longest time-penalty at the Table I have ever seen. Quite right too. I'd have had him taken outside and shot. I think he thought he was playing pub poker, where, of course, it is the default. Posted by Tikay10
1 hour :O longest ive seen was a 2 round sit out and that for for a villian acting out of turn 6 times.
In Response to Re: Poker on 4 with Hartigan. : [QUOTE ]I think its a pretty good habit to "attempt" to scoop a pot when oppo mucks in anycase. If staff call for a ruling its just an aside. Posted by AMYBR
It's also a habit that would get you a time-penalty or worse in any well-run Venue...... Dealers award us the pot, we never take it until they do, for fear our hands will be, quite rightly, chopped off. I was in a Tourney once where Lord Numpty scooped in the Pot before it was awarded to him - wrongly. There had been THREE all-ins involved, & the Tourney had to be suspended for 45 minutes while the pot was re-constructed to everyone's satisfaction. Not an easy ask,. given that in these spots, all three players exaggarated their claimed chip stack pre-hand...... The kid got a 1 hour pernalty though, to everyone's great satisfaction. Short of total disqualification, that's the longest time-penalty at the Table I have ever seen. Quite right too. I'd have had him taken outside and shot. I think he thought he was playing pub poker, where, of course, it is the default. Posted by Tikay10
Pretty much meant verbally/mentally. Oppo mucks we ought to know pot is rightfully ours. I will never show my hand at showdown unless am forced to. Countless times find selves in spot on river where we have (hero) called a bet and oppo mucks best hand, obv only realising it if cards are forced to be shown - which as we know varies from location to location.
If oppo mucks his hand we have won. Thats why I hate the rule.
In Response to Re: Poker on 4 with Hartigan. : It's also a habit that would get you a time-penalty or worse in any well-run Venue...... Dealers award us the pot, we never take it until they do, for fear our hands will be, quite rightly, chopped off. I was in a Tourney once where Lord Numpty scooped in the Pot before it was awarded to him - wrongly. There had been THREE all-ins involved, & the Tourney had to be suspended for 45 minutes while the pot was re-constructed to everyone's satisfaction. Not an easy ask,. given that in these spots, all three players exaggarated their claimed chip stack pre-hand...... The kid got a 1 hour pernalty though, to everyone's great satisfaction. Short of total disqualification, that's the longest time-penalty at the Table I have ever seen. Quite right too. I'd have had him taken outside and shot. I think he thought he was playing pub poker, where, of course, it is the default. Posted by Tikay10
Pretty much meant verbally/mentally. Oppo mucks we ought to know pot is rightfully ours. Posted by AMYBR
Yeah I guessed as a seasoned live player that was what you meant.
In Response to Re: Poker on 4 with Hartigan. : Pretty much meant verbally/mentally. Oppo mucks we ought to know pot is rightfully ours. Posted by AMYBR
Yeah I guessed as a seasoned live player that was what you meant. I mean if he's mucked, you've won regardless. Posted by Lambert180
Yeah sorry did edit.
If your hand has showdown value..well it has showdown value lol. If you muck, your hand should be dead by default. Its no different from not protecting your hand from the dealer. That responsibility falls on the individual player, just as mucking is an optional choice that ought to have a consequence. People soon learn.
I was playing a HU Hyper the other day, betting throughout the hand, then I checked to them on the river as I was playing the board and couldn't really bluff in that spot and he just open folded. Always nice when you're playing the board lol.
I remember one hand in particular in Hull. I was just spewing in one particular hand vs a pretty lag guy.
He ships river and I call with 2nd pr on pretty polarised board. He says "I must be beat if you call" and LITERALLY throws his hand across the table just an inch or so short of the muck.
I await for pot to be awarded by default. Happy days. Dealer retrieves his cards and plays it as a showdown. (2nd pr better kicker).
That is the extreme end obv, but countless situations like it. Plus just not wanting to show oppo/table your range unless we have to, which we comfortably oughtnt have to if oppo is bad enough to muck.
Get the rule totally as there have been bad practices on the live circuit. If only all poker players were upstanding citizens huh
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Posted by Tikay10
1 hour :O longest ive seen was a 2 round sit out and that for for a villian acting out of turn 6 times.
Posted by Tikay10
Pretty much meant verbally/mentally. Oppo mucks we ought to know pot is rightfully ours. I will never show my hand at showdown unless am forced to. Countless times find selves in spot on river where we have (hero) called a bet and oppo mucks best hand, obv only realising it if cards are forced to be shown - which as we know varies from location to location.
If oppo mucks his hand we have won. Thats why I hate the rule.
Posted by AMYBR
Yeah I guessed as a seasoned live player that was what you meant.
I mean if he's mucked, you've won regardless.
Posted by Lambert180
Yeah sorry did edit.
If your hand has showdown value..well it has showdown value lol. If you muck, your hand should be dead by default. Its no different from not protecting your hand from the dealer. That responsibility falls on the individual player, just as mucking is an optional choice that ought to have a consequence. People soon learn.
I was playing a HU Hyper the other day, betting throughout the hand, then I checked to them on the river as I was playing the board and couldn't really bluff in that spot and he just open folded. Always nice when you're playing the board lol.
He ships river and I call with 2nd pr on pretty polarised board. He says "I must be beat if you call" and LITERALLY throws his hand across the table just an inch or so short of the muck.
I await for pot to be awarded by default. Happy days. Dealer retrieves his cards and plays it as a showdown. (2nd pr better kicker).
That is the extreme end obv, but countless situations like it. Plus just not wanting to show oppo/table your range unless we have to, which we comfortably oughtnt have to if oppo is bad enough to muck.
Get the rule totally as there have been bad practices on the live circuit. If only all poker players were upstanding citizens huh