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MASTERCASH......MASTERCRASH
devonfish5
Member Posts: 4,291
finished my dym session early last night...again.
browsing on the tv....aaaaagh mastercash...that,ll do.
am i going to see a bit of 2p/4p....no
maybe some 5p/10p then....no
straight into 25p/50p....not interested,see ya.
what,s happened sky?
have you lost touch with the common people?
i used to love watching Mastercash...
even used to record it,so i didn,t miss it.
i even saw some guy called "devonfish5" a few times...
he always made me laugh watching him.
he slow played AA once i remember,and this guy,old fella,TK i think, told him off...
"good old days hey.!!!"
yes i,m sure the "big wigs"know what they are doing.
trying to make money...yes we all know that...
"it,s a business...blah blah blah"
fair enough,i understand it,that,s all you are really interested in.
don,t worry about us little guys,us minnows that feed you big fish,
we,re not important in the grand scheme of things.
cut back our cash 4 points...
take away our little tournies...they don,t make you much money,do they?
bring in re-buys,yes more money.
ok,we,ve got a great community here,true...atm.
yes we can all come here & "have our say"
make the most of it now...while we,ve still got it.
could be the next thing to go,you know.!!!
(* *)
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dev
browsing on the tv....aaaaagh mastercash...that,ll do.
am i going to see a bit of 2p/4p....no
maybe some 5p/10p then....no
straight into 25p/50p....not interested,see ya.
what,s happened sky?
have you lost touch with the common people?
i used to love watching Mastercash...
even used to record it,so i didn,t miss it.
i even saw some guy called "devonfish5" a few times...
he always made me laugh watching him.
he slow played AA once i remember,and this guy,old fella,TK i think, told him off...
"good old days hey.!!!"
yes i,m sure the "big wigs"know what they are doing.
trying to make money...yes we all know that...
"it,s a business...blah blah blah"
fair enough,i understand it,that,s all you are really interested in.
don,t worry about us little guys,us minnows that feed you big fish,
we,re not important in the grand scheme of things.
cut back our cash 4 points...
take away our little tournies...they don,t make you much money,do they?
bring in re-buys,yes more money.
ok,we,ve got a great community here,true...atm.
yes we can all come here & "have our say"
make the most of it now...while we,ve still got it.
could be the next thing to go,you know.!!!
(* *)
"
^
dev
Comments
oh,you noticed that i was in a grumpy mood,
didn,t think it showed...lol
of course our community isn,t simply going to just be taken away because of 1 grumpy post.
well let,s hope not anway.
yes,i am /was in a grumpy mood as you say,i don,t think that it,s too much to ask for 1/2 an hour per week
showing the bottom end of play.it,s all about "the big boys"as usual.
once i,ve seen 1 hand i,ve seen it a thousand times,so predictable.
:-(
dev
Variety is the spice of life, i suppose. Devon , a big fish eh? Ooops, i didn't mean that. I meant a big player on tv. Yes, i agree its good to see small blinds in order to learn but i enjoy bigger stakes too. I don't play cash yet as i feel its got a different mentality to it but i'd like to see a variety of stakes in order to learn. just my opinion though. Cheers...keep up the good work...enjoying your thread.
They quite often do mix it up though starting at the lower stakes and sometimes i've seen them start at massive stakes. What they show on the channel hasn't really got anything to do with making money though, although i will agree it would be nice to show some really low limits, if not just to show 99% of the players what they're doing wrong (myself included)!
Also i don't really think you can criticise them for showing 25/50p. Although we might not be able to play them with our own bankroll restrictions it's not exactly watching durrr vs Ivey - this is £50-£100 buy ins, it's money and stakes which if you take out of a poker/bankroll context everybody can relate to.
Of course everyone wants to see their level on mastercash and there would be just as many if not more people turning off if they showed 2p/4p .
As they say you can't please everyone but in general i would say the neutral would rather watch higher stakes.
No disrespect meant to any low stakes players because i know some of them grind very hard also.
Devon,
The only person who can really address, or change, this, is Mother, who decides what is, & is not, shown on Ch 865, so it'd be better in the Sky Poker TV Thread.
It really is difficult to please everyone though, I must say.
I'll send this thread to SWMBO, & she will reply soonest, though she will be offline much of today & tomorrow I believe.
I can tell you that viewing figures have gone through the roof, with a huge uplift on previous. Whether they will release numbers, I don't know, as it's a bit commercially sensitive. We can say though, for sure, that the new format has gained us a huge amount of new viewers. Whether it feeds through to commercial benefit though, I don't really know, it's hard to measure that one accurately. Everything has to be cost-benefit measured, especially if it costs a bunch of money, so I imagine they have done the sums.
but you get my drift.
i,m simply making a point that imo
the old look master cash was a better more varied show,that,s all.
i know you can,t please all of the people all of the time,
how about pleasing all of the people some of the time.
cheers profman(* *)
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dev
much appreciated.
"i really don,t enjoy moaning,(although you wouldn,t think so,i guess with this post)
but if i have an opinion,like i do hear obviously,then i think it should be expressed."
tbh,
i didn,t even know that there was a "sky poker tv thread"
regardless,if i have caused a topic of some interest and debate by posting under gpc
then i am happy with that.
let,s hope the powers that be are listening and bring back our micro players 30 minutes
of viewing enjoyment.
not much to ask for really ,is it?
:-)
devon
Hi
Not meant to be working at this time of night but wanted to get on here and respond regarding Master Cash and the channel in general.
One of the great things about the forum is getting feedback on the channel, as the person who runs everything at 865 I want to make sure that we are producing the best poker educational and entertainment shows possible for our viewers.
Now as everyone knows the channel went through some major changes over the last 6 months and some people love it, others hate it, but that can be said for any show on any channel.
Its extremely difficult to keep everyone happy and also make viewers understand how much work goes on behind the scenes, actually from today during the breaks between shows there is some 'Behind the Scenes' videos going out with Richard Orford.
I sat with my team including all the talent members and went through every part of each show, from the graphics, to the music, the guests, competitions, to the title sequences and most importantly the content...... in short what we could do better.
Out of this meeting came a list of changes including Master Cash shows, allowing us to show more levels, more hands, more education. These changes WILL happen, but viewers need to understand a lot goes on which we dont put on the forum but we want to constantly improve.
As for the viewing figures this have increased dramatically since we relaunched the channel, which I am delighted about, esepcially for a specialised channel at the top end of the EPG.
PLEASE send in your feedback, and I will also do my best to come back asap with as much information as possible, BUT DON'T MOAN..... otherwise poor Tikay has to listen to me shouting in the office and its not fair aas his 'blonde' hair is going grey
Hope that covers everything
Thanks
And to the poster above, yes to me 25p/50p is relatively "big boys". For a master cash table with 200 BB buy-in, thats £100 for 1 buy-in and with proper bank roll if you have 20 buy-ins for your level thats two grand in your bankroll. That's way out of a lot of peoples league!
thankyou 4 your reply,
i am sorry that my post came across as 1 big moan,
please accept my oppologies.
i appreciate that there are a number of changes that have/been /will be made
by sky poker in all areas.
i am a passionate poker player here @sky and have been 4 the past 2 years.
i have had many happy days pleasure,winning on a fair number of those days and losing on many others.
i have just been getting the feeling that just recently a number of these changes have been directed at the lower end players and imo not many have been to my likeing.the not showing of micro cash on mastercash
being just one of them.
i will in future try and be a little more diplomatic with my wording.
no offense was meant or intended.
yours grovellingly...
devonfish5
:-)
LOTS to consider, but all for the better I hope
I also think,
it would be,
good,
to have some,
nl4 on the tv,
would be interesting to,
watch the different play.
I don't know why there isn't a 4NL or 8NL mastercash. They don't have to get a huge amount of TV time, but some people can only afford to play these stakes, and when Sky ask for hands for poker clinic/poker school or whatever, they HAVE to from TV tables, so that means a 4NL/8NL player can never send in a hand to ask for advice
:-)
i
understood your
post
fully...
:-)
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