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NL5 bad river card and weak donk bet

ameliorateameliorate Member Posts: 33
edited May 2012 in The Poker Clinic
River is the worst card in the deck for me, do we call given the odds?

This is one of the 5p/5p action tables (players are generally really bad)

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceSUBARU90Small blind £0.05£0.05£2.62mBig blind £0.05£0.10£7.80 Your hole cardsKA   SCall £0.05£0.15£6.48ameliorateRaise £0.25£0.40£6.70SUBARU90Fold    mCall £0.20£0.60£7.60SCall £0.20£0.80£6.28Flop  5QA   mCheck    SCheck    ameliorateBet £0.60£1.40£6.10mFold    SCall £0.60£2.00£5.68Turn  8   SCheck    ameliorateBet £1.50£3.50£4.60SCall £1.50£5.00£4.18River  J   SBet £0.60£5.60£3.58

Comments

  • FabraclassFabraclass Member Posts: 117
    edited May 2012
    In Response to NL5 bad river card and weak donk bet:
    River is the worst card in the deck for me, do we call given the odds? This is one of the 5p/5p action tables (players are generally really bad) Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance SUBARU90 Small blind   £0.05 £0.05 £2.62 m Big blind   £0.05 £0.10 £7.80   Your hole cards K A       S Call   £0.05 £0.15 £6.48 ameliorate Raise   £0.25 £0.40 £6.70 SUBARU90 Fold         m Call   £0.20 £0.60 £7.60 S Call   £0.20 £0.80 £6.28 Flop     5 Q A       m Check         S Check         ameliorate Bet   £0.60 £1.40 £6.10 m Fold         S Call   £0.60 £2.00 £5.68 Turn     8       S Check         ameliorate Bet   £1.50 £3.50 £4.60 S Call   £1.50 £5.00 £4.18 River     J       S Bet   £0.60 £5.60 £3.58
    Posted by ameliorate
    I d call.Could be a blocker bet with a weak ace. We only have to be winning 1 in 9 times(or something like that) to make the call +EV .
  • EvilPinguEvilPingu Member Posts: 3,462
    edited May 2012
    I think it's a call on the river. We should never be raising that river here IMO. Behind a lot of the time but we're getting 9/1. The price we're getting means this is a call, as I think that 60p is a blocker bet with a worse ace enough of the time.
  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited May 2012
    pretty easy flat
  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited May 2012
    Yeah call
  • BorinLonerBorinLoner Member Posts: 3,863
    edited May 2012
    I agree, it's a call. We can't fold given the pot-odds, we can't raise and expect to be called by worse. No reason to raise as a bluff since we have reasonable showdown value and the cost of trying to bluff out two-pair hands would be pretty high. We'd need to believe that our opponent is capable of making the fold, too, and won't just station us.

    For what it's worth, I'd have played it exactly the same as you at every stage.
  • KAM99KAM99 Member Posts: 773
    edited May 2012

    Call the weakest of value bets and see his flush. No choice at the odds though, and expect thats why its so small as more we aren't going to call.

  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited May 2012
    Yeah just flat.
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