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Satellites for Blackpool

FlyingDaggFlyingDagg Member Posts: 4,146
edited June 2012 in Poker Chat
I qualified for the Blackpool semi last night and when it started to say players were unhappy is an understatement. There were 19 runners and only one place on offer, and nearly all the players on my table were cursing the fact. A week or so ago I also played a semi that had 29 runners and only 2 places available. All this does is make the 1 in 10 seem a joke and it' so much harder to qualify. The field is barely increasing by 8 or 9 places a week and at this rate will not fill. Last night it was 1 place and £198 for runner up, surely Sky could round them up to 2 places when it is so near the next limit?
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  • DAVEYZZDAVEYZZ Member Posts: 1,651
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Satellites for Blackpool:
    I qualified for the Blackpool semi last night and when it started to say players were unhappy is an understatement. There were 19 runners and only one place on offer, and nearly all the players on my table were cursing the fact. A week or so ago I also played a semi that had 29 runners and only 2 places available . All this does is make the 1 in 10 seem a joke and it' so much harder to qualify. The field is barely increasing by 8 or 9 places a week and at this rate will not fill. Last night it was 1 place and £198 for runner up, surely Sky could round them up to 2 places when it is so near the next limit?
    Posted by FlyingDagg
    Sites are not in the business of "rounding up"
    however if you came 2nd you could add £20 and bingo you have a seat..
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited May 2012
    I do completely agree with you, although to be fair, the £198 is practically a seat, and the way they've got the satellite structure set up, seats will definitely be up for direct buy-in cos they just aint going fast enough.

    Stick a £40 + rake 1in5 game up, and say some £8 + rake 1in5 into that :)
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Satellites for Blackpool:
    sounds silly or am i missing the point some people might of got there with a small buy in and have no intention of going to blackpool but rather have the cash so hoping there was enough money to cash rather then seat i done this few months back even said on the table i sattelited for nottingham event for £2.50 and i could of played the main even as i had loads of chips and seat was £110 but i said  on the table id rather have the cash as i live miles away from nottingham i would spend double the £110 in a weekend up there so people on table agreed and i made a cash for summit like £98 so i think cash is a fair thing instead of 2 seats 
    Posted by IDONKCALLU
    So it's the done thing now to admit to collusion on the forum?

    People are playing Blackpool sats cos they wanna play at SPT Blackpool
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited May 2012
    You said you agreed with people at the table that they would have the seat and you the cash.
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Satellites for Blackpool:
    i said im going all in everyhand because i dont want the seat rather have cash yeah ? its like u playing a dym paul 4 left and some 1 is away and people started chatting on table u would never say look theres a guy away just steal hes blind and we cash it happened all the time dnt say it doesnt lol like if u play heads up and the guy is away are u really gonna wait till he comes bk or steal hes blinds please tell me your answer 
    Posted by IDONKCALLU
    Of course in a DYM you let the away person blind away (if you have a brain) but yeah you don't mention it, the second you talk about it, it becomes collusion. Likewise in HU yeah I will steal the chips of an away player if they're a random... if it's someone I know then I'll wait for them.

    However at no point do I discuss what I'm doing, if you talk to the other people at the table, then you are colluding to affect the natural course of the result.
  • BorinLonerBorinLoner Member Posts: 3,863
    edited May 2012
    I'm not taking a position on whether that was ethical or not... but it wasn't a very clever way of making sure you didn't get the seat. The smart thing to do would have been to fold every hand or limp into every hand, then tell people what you have on the river so they can call if they have you beat.

    Your way, you just build up your stack until someone can call you and you have a chance of knocking someone else out. Just saying.
  • BorinLonerBorinLoner Member Posts: 3,863
    edited May 2012
    Well they wouldn't fold every hand. If you're going to collude just let the shorties all steal your blind or get to the river and tell them your hand. It would have a 100% success rate unlike your 97 vs QQ.
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited May 2012
    Shoving every hands stands for you to steal alot of blinds because you don't get alot of hands in satellites that people are willing to call a shove with. Clearly the best way to do it was min-raise/fold over and over again. But it is all dodgy and should not be discussed.
  • BorinLonerBorinLoner Member Posts: 3,863
    edited May 2012
    It's not that dodgy really. It's just like doing a deal at a final table. Nobody is being cheated.

    As for the best way, it would have been pretty simple to limp in, check to the river multi-way and disclose your hands to each other. That's how you rig a hand,good and proper... Although if you do that in any normal form of the game you'd be in the brown stuff. lol
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited May 2012
    Wel if you wanna do it quick, you raise to an amount just under what they got, then fold to a shove lol. But I'm not sure this is suitable forum conversation.
  • BorinLonerBorinLoner Member Posts: 3,863
    edited May 2012
    What? You think "How to rig a game of poker" isn't a suitable topic for conversation on Sky Poker forums? lol
  • FlyingDaggFlyingDagg Member Posts: 4,146
    edited May 2012
    I like the way this thread has been hijacked (NOT). I'm not sure that it's strictly collusion Idonk but I don't agree with it as by simply taking part your taking away the chance from someone else to potentially win a seat or use that cash amount to buy in direct later on. It's the same names cropping up in the Sats and I'm sure we are all trying to win the seat to PLAY at the event. Just in case you don't know Idonk there's another safer way to increase your bankroll and it's called MTT's or cash games. I believe they have them on Skypoker.
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited May 2012
    Can i state i agree with OP
  • BorinLonerBorinLoner Member Posts: 3,863
    edited May 2012

    Strictly speaking a £40 satellite would only make it easier to qualify if you could afford to buy straight into it. Otherwise, your chances of qualifying for the event via the £5 sats would be unchanged. You'd just have to finish higher in the field at the lower level before going into the £40 sat.

    The difficulty is the £220 buy-in. If it doesn't make its cap I'm sure Sky will restrict themselves to £110 events in future, but that price isn't conducive to a two day event.

    On the other hand, I'm pretty sure it will get close to its cap. 77 at the moment so if they average 2 per night for the next two weeks, that's 105. Add a few live satellite winners, priority club and maybe direct buy-ins and I'm sure they'll make it up to 150. I'd suspect you'll see the satellite fields grow in the last few days before they close, anyway.

  • jonjo75jonjo75 Member Posts: 999
    edited May 2012
    Really don't understand what the OP is saying .Sky do not control how many enter for each tourney .
    Would you go into Tescos get an item that costs £1.09 go up to the counter and say i only have £1, can't you just let me have it for that.
     As another post here sais , nearer the time there will prob be direct buy in which will not be much more that you won, or spend the winnings on trying to qaulify again.
  • FlyingDaggFlyingDagg Member Posts: 4,146
    edited May 2012
    What I was trying to say (badly maybe) that 1 in 10 to win a seat from the Semis is a tough ask but when you get 19 runners it's even harder. This is the first time I have tried to sat into an SPT and some people have commented that they seem to remember sats for previous SPT events being 1 in 5.

    Borin Loner 2 seats a night is optimistic. 1 seat a night seems standard 2 at the most maybe a couple of times a week.
  • jonjo75jonjo75 Member Posts: 999
    edited May 2012

    The reason this one is 1 in 10 is because the buy in is £220 rather than £110 so Sky have decided to keep the sats at the same price but make it 1 in 10 . I am sure if the sats were £40 and 1 in 5  people would complain they were too much .

  • FlyingDaggFlyingDagg Member Posts: 4,146
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Satellites for Blackpool:
    The reason this one is 1 in 10 is because the buy in is £220 rather than £110 so Sky have decided to keep the sats at the same price but make it 1 in 10 . I am sure if the sats were £40 and 1 in 5  people would complain they were too much .
    Posted by jonjo75
    thanks for that explanation
  • SHAUNYSHAUNY Member Posts: 508
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Satellites for Blackpool:
    In Response to Re: Satellites for Blackpool : thanks for that explanation
    Posted by FlyingDagg
    im in but must admit ive got mates trying and still not in after £300 of trying,dont understand why the early sats are 3k stack then when u get into semi its 2k,just not enough to play with,and its a good comp your trying to get into it just ends up as a crapshoot! so now what do me mates do carry on or cut there loses or if direct buy in do that?then the seat is getting on for £500
  • BorinLonerBorinLoner Member Posts: 3,863
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Satellites for Blackpool:
    In Response to Re: Satellites for Blackpool : im in but must admit ive got mates trying and still not in after £300 of trying,dont understand why the early sats are 3k stack then when u get into semi its 2k,just not enough to play with,and its a good comp your trying to get into it just ends up as a crapshoot! so now what do me mates do carry on or cut there loses or if direct buy in do that?then the seat is getting on for £500
    Posted by SHAUNY
    The earlier sats are 3k stacks but the blind clock is only 5 minutes. The main sat has a 10 minute clock, so there's more play, relatively.
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