NL10 river decision/line check

splashies

Ok I havent played cash in yonks. This hand happened around 3am this morning. I'd been playing quite LAGish, but mainly in position.

Havent played a meaningful pot with villain and no previous reads.

Just looking for general advice on my line in the hand and obv river decision. 

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
manik6-2	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£8.76
taylor8s	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£9.70
	Your hole cards	7 7
lostfan815	Fold
splashies	Raise		£0.30	£0.45	£15.80
captain192	Fold
neely0y0	Call		£0.30	£0.75	£11.17
manik6-2	Call		£0.25	£1.00	£8.51
taylor8s	Fold
Flop
		5 10 10
manik6-2	Check
splashies	Bet		£0.50	£1.50	£15.30
neely0y0	Call		£0.50	£2.00	£10.67
manik6-2	Fold
Turn
		4
splashies	Bet		£1.00	£3.00	£14.30
neely0y0	Call		£1.00	£4.00	£9.67
River
		4
splashies	Check
neely0y0	Bet		£2.20	£6.20	£7.47
splashies	???

EvilPingu

I think the river is a bet/fold. We can still get value from Ax, 66, 5x. We'll get looked up by a bigger pair occasionally, but I think there's some thin value in betting the river. 

If we thought we were ahead on the flop, then a 4 on the turn, and the river pairing the turn card changes nothing as our opponent should never have a 4 here, as that would make no sense, so we should still think we're ahead on the river if we thought we were good on the flop.

DOHHHHHHH

3 streets from worse on TT5r is optimistic, even @ 3am @ nl10.....

There's no draws at all, I doubt he's gonna turn any kinda hand you beat in to a bluff (22/33 maybe?). He may call again with worse, but there isn't many worse hands he can have now that 22/33 have been cfitted! 

66 & A5 only!

c/f for me, expecting him to check back whenever we're ahead. 

grantorino

In Response to Re: NL10 river decision/line check:

I think the river is a bet/fold. We can still get value from Ax, 66, 5x. We'll get looked up by a bigger pair occasionally, but I think there's some thin value in betting the river.  If we thought we were ahead on the flop, then a 4 on the turn, and the river pairing the turn card changes nothing as our opponent should never have a 4 here, as that would make no sense, so we should still think we're ahead on the river if we thought we were good on the flop.
Posted by EvilPingu

Board may have ran out blank but villain won't call 3 streets with 100% of range that calls flop. We may be good v his flop calling range, doesn't mean we are good against his range for calling 3 streets

c/f>>b/f>>>>c/c imo

splashies

In Response to Re: NL10 river decision/line check:

3 streets from worse on TT5r is optimistic, even @ 3am @ nl10..... There's no draws at all, I doubt he's gonna turn any kinda hand you beat in to a bluff (22/33 maybe?). He may call again with worse, but there isn't many worse hands he can have now that 22/33 have been cfitted!  66 & A5 only! c/f for me, expecting him to check back whenever we're ahead. 
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

Lets have a look shall we!!!

Thanks for the feedback. On reflection i think c/f is probably best and most times that's what i'd do. However, i'd had a few bevvies at the time so my inner station took over.

gd stuff chaps thanks.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
manik6-2	Small blind		£0.05	£0.05	£8.76
taylor8s	Big blind		£0.10	£0.15	£9.70
	Your hole cards	7 7
lostfan815	Fold
splashies	Raise		£0.30	£0.45	£15.80
captain192	Fold
neely0y0	Call		£0.30	£0.75	£11.17
manik6-2	Call		£0.25	£1.00	£8.51
taylor8s	Fold
Flop
		5 10 10
manik6-2	Check
splashies	Bet		£0.50	£1.50	£15.30
neely0y0	Call		£0.50	£2.00	£10.67
manik6-2	Fold
Turn
		4
splashies	Bet		£1.00	£3.00	£14.30
neely0y0	Call		£1.00	£4.00	£9.67
River
		4
splashies	Check
neely0y0	Bet		£2.20	£6.20	£7.47
splashies	Call		£2.20	£8.40	£12.10
neely0y0	Show	3 3
splashies	Show	7 7
splashies	Win	Two Pairs, 10s and 7s	£7.77		£19.87

percival09

I think it's b/f or c/f readless

AMYBR

brag post ftw

river is a very polarising card, for that reason am def more inclined to c/c  Agree with what doh says about turn being very optimistic.  def spot to c/c & re assess. 

Basically bluffing at best, bloating at worse when we lead.