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Opinions for this dym hand please

JimbobadobJimbobadob Member Posts: 117
edited June 2012 in Poker Chat
Playing a £3.30 Dym earlier and hand below occoured.
Now while i cant prove that he give him a double up, it most certainly looks that way.
Pointless going to cc but i was not happy his/her play here.
I will leave name out but i will certainly be keeping an eye on this persons future play

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceJimbobadobSmall blind 300.00300.001087.50gilroy06Big blind 560.00860.000.00 Your hole cardsJ8   FIRE08Fold    xxxCall 600.001460.002210.00JimbobadobFold    xxxUnmatched bet 40.001420.002250.00gilroy06Show7A   xxxShow74   Flop  10KQ   Turn  7   River  6   gilroy06WinPair of 7s1420.00 1420.00

Comments

  • Donut64Donut64 Member Posts: 2,666
    edited June 2012
    It just looks like bad play, but some people will over value double gapped suited connecters! He obviously thought he would have 2 live cards, strght draw and flush draw, so was in know way trying to double up the other guy.
  • phil12ukphil12uk Member Posts: 2,856
    edited June 2012
    He limped assuming ur also gonna make up so u can check it down - 2 vs 1 - so he cashes.  

    Any DYM player is probs making the same call there with the same intention.  

    I'd be wondering why u folded with that same reasoning.

    ALSO, if he folds are u then calling?  The result would be the same and u would have even less chips so u got away fairly lightly.

    I don't see what the problem is here unless I'm missing something completely obvious!
  • EvilPinguEvilPingu Member Posts: 3,462
    edited June 2012
    He's limping, and expecting you to limp too, and check it down to try and KO the Big Blind so everyone cashes. It's pretty standard, villain done nothing wrong.
  • JimbobadobJimbobadob Member Posts: 117
    edited June 2012
    In Response to Re: Opinions for this dym hand please:
    He limped assuming ur also gonna make up so u can check it down - 2 vs 1 - so he cashes.   Any DYM player is probs making the same call there with the same intention.   I'd be wondering why u folded with that same reasoning. ALSO, if he folds are u then calling?  The result would be the same and u would have even less chips so u got away fairly lightly. I don't see what the problem is here unless I'm missing something completely obvious!
    Posted by phil12uk
    I folded assuming he had at least a half decent hand wanting to knock out the other guy and therefore cash!!!
    Knowing that the guy only has under 1bb left why would you bother getting involved the 74 suited or not, Im deffinatly shoving my chips in an unopened pot.
    Maybe its just bad play, i dont know but to me it looks iffy.
  • profman15profman15 Member Posts: 1,808
    edited June 2012
    I've seen worse to be honest. If you are unsure if something suspect went on then report it to SKY who will keep an eye on the situation, i'm sure. Cheers....
  • JimbobadobJimbobadob Member Posts: 117
    edited June 2012
    In Response to Re: Opinions for this dym hand please:
    I've seen worse to be honest. If you are unsure if something suspect went on then report it to SKY who will keep an eye on the situation, i'm sure. Cheers....
    Posted by profman15
    He probably was not giving him a helping hand but you just never know .
    i wont be losing any sleep over it, just wanted the communities opinions
    Thanks
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited June 2012
    Imagine player xxx has AK and the BB has 45, the BB is still gonna win it about 40% of the time and double up to havnig more chips than you.

    So you bundle along making it AK v J8 v 45, where his odds of winning are alot slimmer and there is only 1 bad outcome in terms of who you want to win the hand.
  • djblacke04djblacke04 Member Posts: 1,778
    edited June 2012


    for a start u could say how many players were left, and 2 the blinds are so big that any 2 would be a call...

    if there was 4 left it would appear that he was trying to knock him out...


  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited June 2012
    In Response to Re: Opinions for this dym hand please:
    this is not bad its standard guy limped hoping u call jimbob so u can get the hand 2 vs 1 so more chance of cashing this is standard stuff he cant type in chat call jimbob coz that would be collusion this is standard dym play
    Posted by IDONKCALLU
  • EvilPinguEvilPingu Member Posts: 3,462
    edited June 2012
    Beat me to it Lambert :P
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited June 2012
    In Response to Re: Opinions for this dym hand please:
    yeah collusion :) is standard dym play tho 
    Posted by IDONKCALLU
    No collusion is when you all verbally agree to it.

    Standard DYM play is when people who have a brain know what the best thing to do for the benefit of all (except the shorty lol).
  • JimbobadobJimbobadob Member Posts: 117
    edited June 2012
    In Response to Re: Opinions for this dym hand please:
    In Response to Re: Opinions for this dym hand please : No collusion is when you all verbally agree to it. Standard DYM play is when people who have a brain know what the best thing to do for the benefit of all (except the shorty lol).
    Posted by Lambert180
    Is this aimed at me ???

    So you bundle along making it AK v J8 v 45, where his odds of winning are alot slimmer

    I agree with what your saying here Lambert, are you not also giving a chance to treble his chip count with the best hand, putting him in a much stronger position?
  • EvilPinguEvilPingu Member Posts: 3,462
    edited June 2012
    In Response to Re: Opinions for this dym hand please:
    In Response to Re: I agree with what your saying here Lambert, are you not also giving a chance to treble his chip count with the best hand, putting him in a much stronger position?
    Posted by Jimbobadob
    In this hand:

    You fold. Villain wins 70% of the time, if he wins he has 1,380 chips.
    You call. Villain wins 40% of the time, if he wins he has 1,620 chips.

    He's getting your small blind anyway. The right thing to do here is call, increase the chances knocking him out, especially as it won't actually make much difference if he wins anyway.
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited June 2012
    In Response to Re: Opinions for this dym hand please:
    In Response to Re: Opinions for this dym hand please : Is this aimed at me ??? So you bundle along making it AK v J8 v 45, where his odds of winning are alot slimmer I agree with what your saying here Lambert, are you not also giving a chance to treble his chip count with the best hand, putting him in a much stronger position?
    Posted by Jimbobadob
    Sorry I didn't mean it in the sense that you had no brain.

    I was just pointing out to IDONK that collusion is not 'standard' what IS 'standard' is people silently co-operating to acheive the same goal (cashing).

    My example was the shorty has 45. My point is, even though AK is a superior hand to 45, the shorty will still win with 45 40% of the time and put you in trouble. You have the opportunity to really increase the chance of him getting knocked out for an extra 300 chips.

    You can call knowing it's gonna get checked down to the river with 2 chances for you to win (assuming the bigger stack aint mental and bets lol)
  • JimbobadobJimbobadob Member Posts: 117
    edited June 2012
    In Response to Re: Opinions for this dym hand please:
    In Response to Re: Opinions for this dym hand please : Sorry I didn't mean it in the sense that you had no brain. I was just pointing out to IDONK that collusion is not 'standard' what IS 'standard' is people silently co-operating to acheive the same goal (cashing). My example was the shorty has 45. My point is, even though AK is a superior hand to 45, the shorty will still win with 45 40% of the time and put you in trouble. You have the opportunity to really increase the chance of him getting knocked out for an extra 300 chips. You can call knowing it's gonna get checked down to the river with 2 chances for you to win (assuming the bigger stack aint mental and bets lol)
    Posted by Lambert180
    Ignore me if i am a bit touchy. Im still at work and just want to get out go home and play some poker.

    All adivce/opinions are welcome thats why i started this thread to get views from wiser Brains (LOL) than mine

    Paul
  • splashiessplashies Member Posts: 3,680
    edited June 2012
    Jim you should be making the call here. This is basic day 1, lesson 1, dym stuff.
  • JimbobadobJimbobadob Member Posts: 117
    edited June 2012
    In Response to Re: Opinions for this dym hand please:
    Jim you should be making the call here. This is basic day 1, lesson 1, dym stuff.
    Posted by splashies
    Just expected the button to do the business for me. Never mind, home time soon so i can get back to the tables why the wife watches some dodgy girly tv.
  • splashiessplashies Member Posts: 3,680
    edited June 2012
    In Response to Re: Opinions for this dym hand please:
    In Response to Re: Opinions for this dym hand please : Just expected the button to do the business for me. Never mind, home time soon so i can get back to the tables why the wife watches some dodgy girly tv.
    Posted by Jimbobadob
    Grab a beer and watch the footy ;)


  • JimbobadobJimbobadob Member Posts: 117
    edited June 2012
    In Response to Re: Opinions for this dym hand please:
    In Response to Re: Opinions for this dym hand please : Grab a beer and watch the footy ;)
    Posted by splashies
    Deffo a beer but i get to play poker nagging free every friday as long as the wife has control of the tv remote!!!!  I think she is watching SMASH tonight, argghhh theatre on the tv (feel my pain)lol
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