dym poker school

CHILLIE

this short programe showed how bad some of the players are on dym games just a shame they never showed more hands then they would see how bad it really is no offence intended but it would of been nice to have a dym grinder on the team to give there views on the hands shown

GREGHOGG

Hi Chillie,

We have battled many a time at the tables, but i cant agree that the play in dyms is always bad. there are some very good players around, especially at the higher levels...

Dyms are profitable and fun at all levels, but i think we need to respect all our opponents... If people want to limp and bluff level 1, that's fine, it's their money.

i don't agree with highlighting how bad players are, i think that ryan and james gave good constructive advice, and i think thats what the channel try to do, and they succeed imo.  I would have liked more hands from latter stages, as im usually asleep level 1 and 2, but i understand this is coming soon!

CHILLIE

must be watching diffrent programes then greg coz what im watching is cringe worthy at times and even at the big levels it aint much diffrent

CHILLIE

and if they want to give advice tell them st8 fold  fold fold dym are about working your way to the last 4 then start playing u dont get anything for 1st

scotty77

The Poker School is there to educate players.

It's hard to educate players when hands are played correctly, isn't it?  A lot of new players to poker go to DYMs when they are first starting out.  Trying to help people with these kind of basic fundamental errors will make for a bigger player pool.

I don't play many DYMs although I have read some strategy posts/guides...and I play the 33/55s during grind months, but the standard did shock me somewhat....I had also just seen those hands for the very first time when they aired too.

I believe that both me and James said many times during the broadcast that the key to DYMs is just to be there when there were 4 players remaining.

Massively agree that any future DYM episodes would really benefit from a DYM specialist being a guest analyst tho.  Will pass on that idea.

CHILLIE

nice one scotty a dym grinder on the team would be good where i agree that a lot of players start on dym and finding there feet a lot of the players on the tv hands shown were mostly grinders on dym and there was one game that u said this cant be a high buy in game sorry to say it was kevcoke dont do small buyins on dym 11 pound min and i do believe if u run a programme for 3 hours u would be shocked even more as u said good value on dym sky.com

profman15

Actually Chillie, Kevcoke does play £5.50 at times. The prog did show so much poor play and didn't really have the range of hands or the different stages to provide a clear picture. Sky do their best and imo its usually very good. i did send a q in about Bubble factor theory and Scotty 77 was honest enough to say he wasn't up to date with it and to as on the forum. That was fine and i appreciate it.
The programme was set for a beginner level i feel and that is fine as you can't satisfy everyone but i'm sure scotty would agree there were too many similar hands for him to make learning points about.
Maybe £11 min games would have shown a better standard...after all there's only so many times you can say "don't limp, always raise first in". I still think scotty does a good job though. Cheers

CHILLIE

In Response to Re: dym poker school:

Actually Chillie, Kevcoke does play £5.50 at times. The prog did show so much poor play and didn't really have the range of hands or the different stages to provide a clear picture. Sky do their best and imo its usually very good. i did send a q in about Bubble factor theory and Scotty 77 was honest enough to say he wasn't up to date with it and to as on the forum. That was fine and i appreciate it. The programme was set for a beginner level i feel and that is fine as you can't satisfy everyone but i'm sure scotty would agree there were too many similar hands for him to make learning points about. Maybe £11 min games would have shown a better standard...after all there's only so many times you can say "don't limp, always raise first in". I still think scotty does a good job though. Cheers
Posted by profman15

this thread was not about scotty so i take it u never read it and kevcoke might play the odd 5 pound dym if there not much about but on the whole he plays 11pound and above and the players featured on the hands shown were not beginners im just highlighting the poor play u see on dym and its good to see a programme on dyms to highlight this and if u play as many dym as me then u know what my post was about and showing 11pound dym are just as bad as the 30p dym imo

Jimbobadob

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this short programe showed how bad some of the players are on dym games just a shame they never showed more hands then they would see how bad it really is no offence intended but it would of been nice to have a dym grinder on the team to give there views on the hands shown
Posted by CHILLIE

Is there a link anywhere i can watch this or do i just have to catch a re-run on 865?? If so, does anyone know when it will be re-shown??
Was there any of me playing badly lol (Probably)

belsibub

In Response to Re: dym poker school:

Actually Chillie, Kevcoke does play £5.50 at times. The prog did show so much poor play and didn't really have the range of hands or the different stages to provide a clear picture. Sky do their best and imo its usually very good. i did send a q in about Bubble factor theory and Scotty 77 was honest enough to say he wasn't up to date with it and to as on the forum. That was fine and i appreciate it. The programme was set for a beginner level i feel and that is fine as you can't satisfy everyone but i'm sure scotty would agree there were too many similar hands for him to make learning points about. Maybe £11 min games would have shown a better standard...after all there's only so many times you can say "don't limp, always raise first in". I still think scotty does a good job though. Cheers
Posted by profman15

I am pretty sure they said bubble play in dym's is on tonights show.

MP33

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. Massively agree that any future DYM episodes would really benefit from a DYM specialist being a guest analyst tho.  Will pass on that idea.
Posted by scotty77

I know there are ppl with better DYM records as he has told me, but have found JC to be very helpful and always happy and willing to give advice.
Not sure if he,d be able to do it (don,t know him personally or where he lives) but if possible i think he,d be the perfect candidate for this

MP

EvilPingu

Missed the show on Sunday but I'll try to catch a repeat of last night's show if I can, mainly to see what the standard of play and analysis was like. I'd definitely be in favour of a DYM specialist on a DYM Poker School though.

Of all the DYM grinders that I've played (so mainly £5.50 and £11), the one whose game I respect the most is probably Shanxta, and his Sharkscope is awesome too. I've played Mariusz80, the guy who won the first leg of this year's SPT, a few times and he's a very good player as well. Don't know if either of them would be willing to go on the show but both would be decent guests for a DYM Poker School episode IMO.

Re: The post saying increase the buy in to get rid of fish and show decent players - you're going to get people who want to be on TV. They don't care whether the buy in is 50p or £50, they'll pay anything to see themselves on telly. Irrespective of the buy-in, you're always going to get fish, and people playing out of their bankroll, even more so because of TV tables, so I don't think increasing the buy-in would effect the standard of play much.

profman15

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In Response to Re: dym poker school : this thread was not about scotty so i take it u never read it and kevcoke might play the odd 5 pound dym if there not much about but on the whole he plays 11pound and above and the players featured on the hands shown were not beginners im just highlighting the poor play u see on dym and its good to see a programme on dyms to highlight this and if u play as many dym as me then u know what my post was about and showing 11pound dym are just as bad as the 30p dym imo
Posted by CHILLIE

Hi Chillie
I wasn't disagreeing wih you Chillie in any way. I agree with you about the programme and some games i'v played in have had hands as shown which i recognise as poor plays. I've only been playing for a year but don't play cash atm only MTT and DYM. I just play £3.30 and £5.50 but thought the £11 dym's would be of a higher standard.
Would you mind looking at my thread in the poker clinic called "scotty77 told me....." as you seem to be a person with the necessary expertise in dym's to consider it. Thanks for the help and may i repeat that i wasn't be disparaging in any way. TBH i was a little disappointed in the programme but recognise that you can't cover all aspects in such a short time. Cheers....

patwalshh

I think talking about individual DYM players in this thread is a bad idea, especially as a ton of regs at DYM's are losing players. 

I look forward to the show tonight

CHILLIE

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I think talking about individual DYM players in this thread is a bad idea, especially as a ton of regs at DYM's are losing players.  I look forward to the show tonight
Posted by patwalshh

no player talked about on this post has been dissed in any way actually they were bigged up cant wait cant see your issue tbh

rancid

ofc your going to see hands played a bit badly, otherwise if they only showed hands played corectly then what is anyone going to learn from them ?
It's fantastic if people can learn from other peoples mistakes )
Anyway I doubt anyone plays perfect poker 100% of the time, give em a break !

+1 does need a DYM grinder to give advice, but also you gotta remember these shows are aimed at beginners to the game so they never going to be too in depth unless SKY change there whole marketing ethos

Largearce

If your looking for people to speak on DYMS why not ask the LEG ends Captain Mr 18and5time, or if the bleeper is working, and you need eye candy on the show SUMMERJADE.....

Dazler

rather than just portions of a dym game i would like to see 1 whole game scrutinised from start to finish as every level in a game changes the play massively. When you get bad players the games are easy and no one learns anything apart from they played bad, when you get everyone understanding how to play them it becomes a lot more tricky and id love to see that on the show instead. I mean if you have 6 players at level 5 and above its all about timing and position and what hands you can possibly fold or shove with. Dont really see the point in showing someone that dosnt know what there doing because there the ones that go out early anyways and id like to pick up pointers on how to survive against good players.

Largearce

In Response to Re: dym poker school:

rather than just portions of a dym game i would like to see 1 whole game scrutinised from start to finish as every level in a game changes the play massively. When you get bad players the games are easy and no one learns anything apart from they played bad, when you get everyone understanding how to play them it becomes a lot more tricky and id love to see that on the show instead. I mean if you have 6 players at level 5 and above its all about timing and position and what hands you can possibly fold or shove with. Dont really see the point in showing someone that dosnt know what there doing because there the ones that go out early anyways and id like to pick up pointers on how to survive against good players.
Posted by Dazler

To long winded to show whole game and can be boring in early stages, i think i gets better when 4 people left, but show diff types, some where ther is a big stack, against 3 small stacks and some where all stacks are evenly matched this way u get different tactics

profman15

I think the best way would be to get a selection of hands from the same game at different stages and with a middling standard of players. Then points could be made to cover all parts but it would need preparation beforehand as a dym grinder would need tomake comments. How about John Connor or suchlike as a guest? Just a thought....

TWRAMYEP

I think any show on DYMs needs a guest whos grinded thousands of these with a good ROI