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Should i be worried here? Nl 20
davelufc
Member Posts: 1,374
Oppo calls my raise pre, bets pot on the flop then calls my raise, then half pot turn!!
Is there something fishy here? Slowplaying a bigger pair or set?
Is there something fishy here? Slowplaying a bigger pair or set?
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| journeyboy | Small blind | £0.10 | £0.10 | £18.31 | |
| xxxx | Big blind | £0.20 | £0.30 | £29.30 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| davon121 | Fold | ||||
| DEFOE007 | Fold | ||||
| TeamMoney | Fold | ||||
| davelufc | Raise | £0.60 | £0.90 | £52.95 | |
| journeyboy | Call | £0.50 | £1.40 | £17.81 | |
| xxxx | Call | £0.40 | £1.80 | £28.90 | |
| Flop | |||||
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| journeyboy | Check | ||||
| xxxx | Bet | £1.80 | £3.60 | £27.10 | |
| davelufc | Raise | £4.40 | £8.00 | £48.55 | |
| journeyboy | Fold | ||||
| xxxx | Call | £2.60 | £10.60 | £24.50 | |
| Turn | |||||
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| xxxx | Bet | £5.30 | £15.90 | £19.20 | |
| davelufc ?? | |||||
Comments
As played, I'm not too afraid of sets. If he had TT, 33 or 22 it doesn't make alot of sense for him to call your flop raise and then lead out on the turn. I'd be thinking that the only hand I've gone behind to is JT on the turn. I think you've given yourself a problem with your flop raise, really.
If you call on the turn you're probably going to have to call it off on the river too, unless it comes something awful like the King of clubs, and that bet's probably going to be for his stack.... It's one of those player dependent things, I suppose. You might want to make this decision a shove or a fold rather than a call. I think it's a shove, but my head is feeling a bit foggy on this one and I'm finding it tough to come up with a definitive answer. Interesting to hear what other people have to say on it.
I do agree that sets are unlikly with the flat on flop.
I would play it same (no reads) and call turn, call river with no scare cards.
Think its definately a shove or fold situation on the turn (as good chance he does shove river), and really that needs some reads on the player. Personally think there is good chance you went behind, but he could be on one of those club draw hands with a paired 10 as well.
I think we can get called by worse. A pair and a flush draw can call us and players can call us with the bare flush draw. Admittedly it would be a bad call with a bare flush draw given the odds we'd be laying but there are plenty of bad players.
Also if he has a 2 pair hand j,10 being obvious one, he may/should check back river if flush hits.
I think its more likely he will half pot river as a bluff with missed draws than he is to call off a shove with a draw.
without any reads i am ruling out JJ+.
The weird lead on the turn makes it tough to predict this particular player. Generally though, with a £20 pot and £19 behind, I wouldn't expect someone to bluff for half the pot on the river. I just don't think it's an effective bluff size. It's the sort of bet that looks like it's trying to get value from one-pair hands but the reason people make bets that size is that people actually do call them with one-pair hands. That makes it an unappealing bet to make if you want those one-pair hands to fold.
As long as the shove is believable as a value bet - as a pot-size bet is - it's going to be the best option as a bluff.
I'm struggling to make sense of the play, so either it's someone alot better than me doing something beyond my understanding or it's a player much worse than me (or at least someone who has played this hand badly).
Either you are good and he makes a bad call with a 10x, a bad call with a flush draw, a marignally bad call with pair and flush draw, or a likely winning call with 2 pair or set.
Thought i might have played it ok, but i`m such a fish lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!