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what would you do in this spot??? 10nl 10max table

D_LegendD_Legend Member Posts: 335
edited June 2012 in The Poker Clinic

hand for last night very interesting !!!!!

i have the nut on the flop but i can't be fav to win i got so many outs to dance by are u still calling the allin?


btw the big stack was playing solid so he never bluffing here.

rob65 Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £26.34
kezzzz Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £4.08
 Your hole cards
  • 10
  • 9
   
Lamber Call  £0.10 £0.25 £1.93
ejam Call  £0.10 £0.35 £17.44
D_Legend Call  £0.10 £0.45 £14.89
SHEEPO Fold     
painy12 Fold     
SLIMAL Raise  £0.50 £0.95 £7.13
rob65 Call  £0.45 £1.40 £25.89
kezzzz Fold     
Lamber Call  £0.40 £1.80 £1.53
ejam Call  £0.40 £2.20 £17.04
D_Legend Call  £0.40 £2.60 £14.49
Flop
  
  • 8
  • Q
  • J
   
rob65 Check     
Lamber All-in  £1.53 £4.13 £0.00
ejam Fold     
D_Legend Raise  £3.06 £7.19 £11.43
SLIMAL Call  £3.06 £10.25 £4.07
rob65 All-in  £25.89 £36.14 £0.00
D_Legend ?????????? 
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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited June 2012
    Why would you fold?

    10hKh would be a nice hand here though.

    Wish I could play vs ppl that can flop the nuts and fold :p

    lolzzzz.............
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  • Curt360x27Curt360x27 Member Posts: 490
    edited June 2012

    Yeah I think this is a fold.
    You have only flopped the nuts but someone could have pocket AA and hit runner runner quads. Can never be to careful in this game.

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  • NColleyNColley Member Posts: 1,178
    edited June 2012

    this isn't omaha, you don't ever fold the nuts on the flop.

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  • HYPETINGHYPETING Member Posts: 253
    edited June 2012
    Obv you called and lost. Otherwise this thread wouldn't be here.
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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited June 2012
    :)
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited June 2012
    cmon seriosuly, snap - see 910hh lolz
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  • D_LegendD_Legend Member Posts: 335
    edited June 2012

    YUP OBV INSTA ALLIN WAS THINKING BEFORE BIG STACK'S ALLIN BUT MAYBE I DIDN'T ASK THE QUESTION RIGHT I MEANT.

    LOOKING AT THE RANGE OF THE PLAYER WHO ARE ALLIN WAS I RIGHT TO CALL.

    KNOWING I'M UP AGANST AT LEAST A FLUSH AND MAYBE SET/ BIGGER STR8 DRAW.

    p.s. i no i got the nuts but they tacially they got more out then me even thougth there could be blocking eachother to the nuts.

    HERE THE RESULT EVEN THOUGHT IT DOESN'T MATTER.  

     

    D_Legend All-in  £11.43 £47.57 £0.00
    SLIMAL All-in  £4.07 £51.64 £0.00
    rob65 Unmatched bet  £11.40 £40.24 £11.40
    rob65 Show
    • 8
    • 8
    		   
    Lamber Show
    • Q
    • 7
    		   
    D_Legend Show
    • 10
    • 9
    		   
    SLIMAL Show
    • K
    • 7
    		   
    Turn
      
    • J
    		   
    River
      
    • 4
    		   
    rob65 Win Full House, 8s and Jacks £38.84  £50.24
     
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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited June 2012
    Seems like your turning a simple decision into a drama to me.

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  • KAM99KAM99 Member Posts: 773
    edited June 2012
    Not sure why this post is here, as can't be a serious question. You flop the nuts you can't fold this unless someone kills you and takes your cards and burns them for good measure. So it turns out to be a cooler where the money was going all in and you got outdrawn, it doesn't change the fact you can't ever fold here.
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited June 2012
    if you stove it, and put oppos on SFD  & set - you can see for yourself how you stand


    your still fav, maybe )
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  • KAM99KAM99 Member Posts: 773
    edited June 2012
    In Response to Re: what would you do in this spot??? 10nl 10max table:
    if you stove it, and put oppos on SFD  & set - you can see for yourself how you stand your still fav, maybe )
    Posted by rancid
    Not really he wasn't in this specific case. If he was just against the set he would be about 65%, but against all those hands he was far worse, so wasn't ideal. He would have been around 40% with the flush and sets having about 30% each equity, So he was actually the underdog to win the hand against the two of them combined.
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  • Curt360x27Curt360x27 Member Posts: 490
    edited June 2012
    As if you called the all in. You should only be calling if you think you are a good enough player to dodge them outs!
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  • D_LegendD_Legend Member Posts: 335
    edited June 2012
    curt360x27 u ok ?


    but ty for the advise just wanted to see what other people tought.

    lol yes i have been playing plo maybe that messing with me on this one.


    gl all.
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited June 2012
    In Response to Re: what would you do in this spot??? 10nl 10max table:
    In Response to Re: what would you do in this spot??? 10nl 10max table : Not really he wasn't in this specific case. If he was just against the set he would be about 65%, but against all those hands he was far worse, so wasn't ideal. He would have been around 40% with the flush and sets having about 30% each equity, So he was actually the underdog to win the hand against the two of them combined.
    Posted by KAM99
    yeah probs, like i said you have to run the math -

    if you could see oppo's hands then it's probably a fold but don't get bogged down with this, just get em in versus oppos' ranges

    btw your never raise folding here :D
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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited June 2012
    This shallow, once I have clicked back flop, oppo could still show me 10hKh and I'ts still an obv call.

    If we are rehhhhhhhhheeaallyy deep i guess we can think more (but most likely id just run it 3x).
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