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should this be in BBV or do I need help?
gracie24
Member Posts: 227
I felt tthat with 2, then 3 aces up my full house had to be the best hand barring.................
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| kano47 | Small blind | £0.02 | £0.02 | £2.11 | |
| gracie24 | Big blind | £0.04 | £0.06 | £3.68 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| trojan57 | Fold | ||||
| jahsam | Fold | ||||
| magna | Fold | ||||
| flower11 | Fold | ||||
| kano47 | Call | £0.02 | £0.08 | £2.09 | |
| gracie24 | Check | ||||
| Flop | |||||
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| kano47 | Check | ||||
| gracie24 | Bet | £0.08 | £0.16 | £3.60 | |
| kano47 | Call | £0.08 | £0.24 | £2.01 | |
| Turn | |||||
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| kano47 | Check | ||||
| gracie24 | Bet | £0.24 | £0.48 | £3.36 | |
| kano47 | Call | £0.24 | £0.72 | £1.77 | |
| River | |||||
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| kano47 | Check | ||||
| gracie24 | All-in | £3.36 | £4.08 | £0.00 | |
| kano47 | All-in | £1.77 | £5.85 | £0.00 | |
| gracie24 | Unmatched bet | £1.59 | £4.26 | £1.59 | |
| kano47 | Show |
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| gracie24 | Show |
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| kano47 | Win | Four Aces | £3.94 | £3.94 | |
Comments
When he calls your flop bet i shut down into check/call mode
Youve pot bet it every street did it cross your mind at any point he might have the ace? , i guess on a rare occasion he has the 8 and your still gunna get the lot at NL4
I can justify saying that he played it extremely passivly but ill put that down to him wanting you to create the action for him
On the river just make it 60p and fold to a check/raise
We are bluffing when we shove. what are we trying to get value from?
Doesnt make alot of sense to me.
Point is not many hands he will call the shove with, and of those that might call you are likely chopping or losing, so just paying big rake for nothing if its a chop, or losing a big pot if he does have the ace. Others may disagree, and its always difficult to give advice when we can see the hand results. Leave them off if you want advice based on what you saw etc.
Given stacks I may shove the river happily. But the super rare time he shows up with quads its just water off a ducks back. This shallow am never c/fing or b/fing. Only reason I'd check is to induce a shove from a SCB
What I dont understand is how we dont know the river just plays itself given stacks. Think we can get called by worse @nl4 and probably higher. But when oppo does show up with quads here we just have to know its pretty much a stack off as board runs out and let it go.
I dont fully understand how this is a bad beat, as we are never ahead in the hand. We then improve to some iffy equity then the river obv upgrades our hand enough to GII.
So when we ship river its knowing that we arent c/fing or b/fing this shallow and relatively strong. Being prepared to be called by some hands we beat more often than we are beaten by quads. But when it is quads.....w/e as board runs out.
Really hate idea of b/f 60p on river.
Myeh I guess if we think oppo calls us with an 8 or PremPP value shoving river isnt terrabad. But we have to know that is what we are aiming at. If we think its a K just c/c and keep rake down
it was a good bluffing move but so many signs to pull out I think
To be honest I think it was not to good a hand for you to be in in the first instance after the flop.
If you were prepared to go all in I think you should have shoved on the flop and that would have removed any doubt about the hand you were up against and had it been a bluff from the opponent would have got yours through
Raise pre, bet flop, bet turn (checking back turn would be fine against certain players, but against unkowns I think your gonna be missing so much value) and shove river and be happy about life.
As you played it by the river your NEVER folding. He's called two streets so is an A in his range? Yes of course it is but most of his range is gonna be made up by PP, an 8 and other random junk that he can actually pay you of with. On the river I would probably just b/c pot. Shoving isn't bad at all though.
Turn bet is okay, although I'm probably bet/folding at this level against random unknown bad players.