the weirdest experience i had was at ceasers acouple of years agp. Bubble time me shortstack as usual. Blindss 1200 2400 with antes. There were two limpers and i pushed with A rag with 3000chips. small blind folded, big blind folded and limpers. Utter unroar from the rest of the table and the other one. Went on to win. A lot of people not happy. Poker gods with me that day tina
I'm also a DYM grinder, and would never, ever, ever be peeling with that T9. In anything, DYM, tournament, whatever, I'm never calling out of that stack size. If it was a tournament, we'd be criticising the guy for calling 2bb out of a 10bb stack, and in a DYM, it's even worse to do that than in a tournament IMO.
(SPOILER: Also played and won all 3 DYMs, wiiiiiiiii)
My bust out hand, my thought process was exactly like James said.
So do I get a fold? In a DYM I get a fold there much more than in any other form, regardless of how committed he was with the first raise, I also get looked up by AT, KQ, KJ, Mid pairs plenty.
Was amazed to see Jacks there, that would be the top of his range with that opening raise IMO.
My bust out hand, my thought process was exactly like James said. So do I get a fold? In a DYM I get a fold there much more than in any other form, regardless of how committed he was with the first raise, I also get looked up by AT, KQ, KJ, Mid pairs plenty. Was amazed to see Jacks there, that would be the top of his range with that opening raise IMO. Posted by TommyD
I fold the AJ because noone ever 4x folds from that stack at that level imo
Although with short effective stacks and 6 left its not a terrible shove imo... i just prefer to get my chips in first, unopened
Rich, youve not mentioned your winning streak of 13 in a row!
You played well EP without having to get massively involved in many hands at all. I would have had the 2 out of 2 finish if it wasn't for being cooler'd with 66 against 1010.
My bust out hand, my thought process was exactly like James said. So do I get a fold? In a DYM I get a fold there much more than in any other form, regardless of how committed he was with the first raise, I also get looked up by AT, KQ, KJ, Mid pairs plenty. Was amazed to see Jacks there, that would be the top of his range with that opening raise IMO. Posted by TommyD
In Response to Re: Sunday Night Live on 865 with Rich and James ***official show thread*** : I fold the AJ because noone ever 4x folds from that stack at that level imo Although with short effective stacks and 6 left its not a terrible shove imo... i just prefer to get my chips in first, unopened Rich, youve not mentioned your winning streak of 13 in a row! Posted by GREGHOGG
I also bin the AJ and 3bet shove AQ, but it's close. I agree that getting AJ in isn't terrible there though, and I definitely think it's correct against some opponents.
TV DYM COOLER, If you really squint your eyes Rich, I had QUADS, lol. AA44
Oppo raised 3x from early position, then called my 8.5xBB re-raise, range PP 7/7 to J/J or A/K, A/Qs, so pocket 9/9 is a possible, rainbow dry flop, just calling my 3/4 pot bet on the flop, suspect MP looking for extra outs, as a re-raise could have looked like an over pair to the flop, well disguised set, turn card brings in more outs for lower MP, so I jam to take it down, oppo's got set .
Where was that infamous Ace on the river when you want it? (Squint hard, 4, there it is)
The strangest thing to happenen at a table has to be what happened at this years wsop event 45 'The poker players championship'
In a hand of pot limit Omaha at the end of day 2, Deeb went all in for 68,800.After a minute or two, Yakovenko said, "All right, I'm all in."
But Yakovenko had more than the pot and wasn't exactly all in just yet, but he slid a couple of giant stacks forward.
Mosseri had a little under 400,000 in his stack and asked Yakovenko to count his stack. Yakovenko said to Mosseri that he actually had more than the pot, but Mosseri still wanted a count on Yakovenko's entire stack, using a few choice words. Yakovenko was said to have had 407,300.
Mosseri went into the tank, while Deeb stood up next to the table and watched. While Mosseri tanked for several minutes, a large crowd gathered around the table. It seemed as though every few seconds that passed, a new person showed up to watch what was going on. Everyone wanted to see what was going on and some were commenting on the action, which Yakovenko jumped in and asked people to stop doing. Deeb backed him up and silenced the spectators.
It was several long minutes in the tank for Mosseri. D'Agostino was pacing around behind the table telling people they weren't even going to get to play another hand because of how long this had been taking. D'Agostino was very short at the time and was looking to get some more hands in.
At one point when Mosseri was in the tank, he did some talking about his hand out loud, which Yakovenko wanted him to stop doing. Mosseri had announced his hand, saying, "I have aces and one suit," while plenty of other players were hovering around. Yakovenko took this as Mosseri "polling his friends" about his hand. There was also a point when Mosseri looked back at his cards and Greg Mueller leaned down to peak in from behind, which Yakovenko also requested be put to a stop.
Mosseri tanked for what most estimated at 10-15 minutes before Yakovenko finally called the clock on him. "Wow, this is the first time in my life anyone has called the clock on me," said Mosseri. Mosseri was given a minute to act on his hand by the floor staff and eventually said, "I call."
After Mosseri said he made the call, he turned his hand over, which was followed by Deeb turning his hand over and Yakovenko turning his over. Here's what was seen:
Mosseri: Ac As Jc 5c
Deeb: Jh Js 10c 7s
Yakovenko: Kc Ks 3d 3c
With all the cards turned up, the dealer quickly ran out the flop, turn and river with the Qs Jd 2d 10s 8s. Deeb had made a spade flush to more than triple up and win the main pot. For the side pot, Mosseri's aces held up and he was the winner of that one. But then, there was more controversy.
After the board ran out, Yakovenko said, "Wait a minute, he only said call," speaking of Mosseri's preflop action. Because Yakovenko had more than the pot when he raised, he wasn't actually all in. He stated that he only reraised the pot, which caused issue about whether or not everyone's money actually went in. It was clear that Deeb was all in, but the side pot between Mosseri and Yakovenko was in question due to Mosseri saying only, "I call."
The floor staff was called over again and the dealer informed him that the hands were prematurely tabled with action still pending between Mosseri and Yakovenko. It took another few minutes to get the story of the hand straight and figure out what was to happen.
The aftermath with all the hands tabled and the board in the middle of the felt
The pot was counted, to determine that Yakovenko's reraise was to 246,000. With Mosseri's stack at around 150,000 more than that, the first floor ruled that the turn and river would have to be rerun as the flop action hadn't been complete. Deeb flung his arms up in the air and couldn't believe the ruling. Neither could anyone watching or the players at the adjacent tables who could hear things.
Shouts of, "That is the worst ruling of all time," and "I can't believe that's the rule," and "Are you joking?" rang out within the tournament area. Deeb spoke up and said he wasn't accepting the ruling and that he wanted the ruling of World Series of Poker Tournament Director Jack Effel.
With the request coming from Shaun Deeb that he wanted an official ruling from World Series of Poker Tournament Director Jack Effel, the lead floor supervisor was called in and arrived on the scene within a few minutes to try and solve the issue as Effel was no longer in the building.
This floor first needed to hear things from the dealer upon arriving on the scene. By this time it had been over 20 minutes since it all began. The dealer ran through the actions to the floor, what had happened, what was said and how it ended. The floor then heard from the players again before making the final ruling.
The ruling was reversed in that it was deemed "accepted action" by all parties that all of the money was in the middle, even though Abe Mosseri had only said, "I call." Nikolai Yakovenko would have only committed about 60% of his stack by putting in the pot-sized reraise, but it was now ruled that he had to pay off Mosseri's entire lot.
There was a lot of back and forth between the players, even the ones not directly involved in the hand. All were trying to get the entire story straight and the pot set so play could move forward. Because of the time this had taken, which was around 30 minutes at this point, the players requested something be done about putting time back on the clock. Although the other tables in the tournament weren't directly involved in the hand, all tables had suffered because everyone was paying attention to the commotion rather than playing at a normal speed.
While the back and forth between Mosseri, Yakovenko and the floor was going on, Yakovenko had told the floor about Mosseri talking about his hand, showing them when he looked back at them and also about how he himself said to Mosseri that he reraised the pot, but was not actually all in.
Eventually, Mosseri said he didn't want Yakovenko to ever talk to him again and the two got quiet. Yakovenko now directed most of his attention to the floor because he was rather upset with the ruling and having to pay Mosseri's entire amount. Mosseri, on the other hand, was busy stacking up his new stack of over 600,000 in chips. Mosseri also added that he thought the players were all in and said he would have just left if he had lost the pot. Deeb was also busy stacking up his chips as he had more than tripled his stack.
It took a few minutes to actually sort out the pot and get it correct before play resumed at the table. The players seated at Table 360 did ask the floor if there was something they could do about the time they had missed. The floor went to work on that, if possible, while the dealer dealt the next hand.
Yakovenko was left with just under 15,000 in chips and got them all in on the next hand in a hand of Limit Hold'em. Yakvenko was eliminated, but that only brought up another issue.
With everything taking so long with the big hand, a table needed to be broken, but it was held up. The table was eventually broken and Phil Ivey took the seat once claimed by Yakovenko. The players at the table wanted more time because of the issue, but it had just been announced that there was only four hands left in the day and the clock was paused. Because Ivey had now joined the table, the floor said they couldn't play extra time as Ivey would be playing double because he came from an active table.
The table came up with a solution to finish out the four hands with Ivey, then remove him from the table and play an extra 15-20 minutes on their own. They believed it would be like they were "going back in time to fill the space". Problem was, Ivey said he wanted to be a part of it as he had missed some hands at the other table due to the slow play and the table not breaking because of the controversy that had happened. In the end, though, it was ruled that no time would be added and the players would simply finish their four hands for the night and then bag up their chips.
Is this a leak in my game??? Hand in primo i just really hated the bet size but should I be peeling here to improve or should I think I'm ahead?? It felt like bottom two or a bad T like JT QT.
the weierdest thing that i have seen was my first ever live game at my local pub where i hardly knew anyone and was dealt pocket kings 3 times in a row i thought i was going to get lycnhed !!
Flicking between the footie and the poker, hoping for something interesting. Flick over to hear James doing his best Tikay impression. Almost like watching two grumpy old men.
Now your talking about tells reminds me of the greatest live tell ive ever seen.
We where played £1/£1 at a friends house one day. Everyone bought in for between £60-£100. About 20 hands in, one player raises pre, gets 3 callers. Flop comes down Ac As Kh
The raiser stands up and declares hes adding £200 to his stack (covering the big stack in the hand) when someone else informs him he cant he starts going crazy argueing why he can. Eventually he gives up and bets half the pot. Everyone else folds, he flips over Ad Ah.
Ive seen some crazy tells but ive never seen anything like this before or since.
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So do I get a fold? In a DYM I get a fold there much more than in any other form, regardless of how committed he was with the first raise, I also get looked up by AT, KQ, KJ, Mid pairs plenty.
Was amazed to see Jacks there, that would be the top of his range with that opening raise IMO.
Although with short effective stacks and 6 left its not a terrible shove imo... i just prefer to get my chips in first, unopened
Rich, youve not mentioned your winning streak of 13 in a row!
Oppo raised 3x from early position, then called my 8.5xBB re-raise,
range PP 7/7 to J/J or A/K, A/Qs, so pocket 9/9 is a possible, rainbow dry flop,
just calling my 3/4 pot bet on the flop, suspect MP looking for extra outs,
as a re-raise could have looked like an over pair to the flop, well disguised set,
turn card brings in more outs for lower MP, so I jam to take it down, oppo's got set
Where was that infamous Ace on the river when you want it? (Squint hard, 4, there it is)
Hand History #537149554 (20:38 01/07/2012)
AK early doors is always a big leak in my game, I tend to overplay it. Is this another example of me overplaying it or was I just unlucky.
What should my bet sizing be here, should I just flat the raise pre?
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